Brick level backup errors are between you and your god; you should be
sharing them with your priest, not a technical list. 

Do real, full backups run successfully? And if not, what /specifically/ is
the error message associated with their failure.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Karon Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 9:37 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> The reason we're trying to run it is because it hasn't ran 
> successfully in a few months now and we're getting TONS of 
> "open file" errors at the top of the Information Store during 
> our backups.  We haven't gotten a good backup in two weeks. 
> Regardless of how we're backing up we're getting errors.  
> We're thinking it's because it hasn't done an online defrag 
> in awhile.  I have never used ISINTEG does it require 
> shutting down the services and doing it offline?
> 
> Thanks,
> Karon Miller
> 
> 
> 
>  Online defrag will not fix any corruption. You have to use 
> Isinteg for that.
> > Make a backup and run it on test setup to see if you have 
> any errors.
> > Besides the online terminating very quickly with no errors in the 
> > event log do you see any other errors during the day?
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Karon Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 10:16 AM
> > Subject: RE: Any command line switches to run Online defrag?
> > 
> > 
> > > Well, it doesn't seem to matter if we schedule an online 
> defrag or 
> > > if we just run one right then on the fly it only runs for a few 
> > > minutes and then stops and says it's terminating.  I 
> didn't even see 
> > > any errors in the event log.  Is it actually running and doing 
> > > anything?  I'm told that if it were really doing anything 
> it would 
> > > run for an hour or more.  We've been having problems with 
> it running 
> > > for a few months now.  We've called Microsoft and they 
> say we have a 
> > > corrupted IS but we're not ready to rebuild.  We're looking for a 
> > > way to force an online defrag outside of Exchange Admin from a 
> > > command line prompt.  If we have to schedule that first 
> that's fine 
> > > but we want to kick off ourselves.  Not sure if this is 
> possible.  
> > > Also we do not want to do an offline defrage 
> eseutil/edbutil because 
> > > that will require taking the services down unless we 
> absolutely have 
> > > to.  Is an offline our only recourse?  If there is 
> corruption in the 
> > > database when you do an offline, will it delete those 
> corrupt files?  If so, data loss is expected in an offline.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Karon Miller
> > > Blackwell Sanders Peper Martin
> > >
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