Well the average is like .5.  10 was the max on one pass but then I
started to see max around 4.  I haven't seen 10 since. 


-----Original Message-----
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 3:10 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

On processor queue lengths? What's the average over a period of a few
minutes? Sometimes it'll spike, but it's when the average stays above 2
for
a long time that you have the Bad ThingsT happen to your server.

(:=

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 2:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


Well we just hit 10.  Hehe.


-----Original Message-----
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 2:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

It's under System... Processor Queue Lengths. One for each processor.

And as far as consultants go, you just have to make sure you hire the
*right* ones. You didn't hire me or any of my associates, for
instance...
But that's another topic and there's no need to get into that on the
list.

(:=

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 1:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


We hired consultants and I have to now rebuild every box they built.  I
am not going into details on that.  As far as processor queue length, I
don't see the option.  I see DPC's queued.  Is that what you mean?


-----Original Message-----
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 2:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

Outlook will be slow for a variety of reasons. Disk usage on the server
is
frequently NOT the issue, unless things on the server are freakishly
bad.

Consider processor queue lengths. You can have lovely-looking processor
utilization percentages, but Exchange can spawn some threads that hog
the
processor without really using it. If your processor queue length is
over 2
for an extended period of time, you need to get another processor. Not a
faster one, an additional one.

Consider network architecture. How do the clients connect to the server?
What's in the way?

I and a bunch of other consultants could go on and on and on and I hope
that
enables you to see the value of hiring a consultant to do just that for
you.
I also hope it enables you to see why a consultant wouldn't necessarily
post
a complete solution, as that's essentially giving away free stuff. Your
situation is one that won't go away with a quick peek here or there. You
need a comprehensive approach to server performance. That's where the
consultant comes in for the quick hit.

Now, if you'd prefer to do it on your own, be prepared to digest a lot
of
reading material. It can be done, but if time is more precious than
money,
it may be something you can't afford to do through limiting monetary
costs.

Fast, cheap, good: pick any two.

(:=

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 12:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


The disks get very busy and keep up with the load that our users put on
the box.  RAM is good Processor is good but the lights on the drives
sometimes don't even blink the disks are so busy.  I need to put that
percentage of utilization in to a report to take to Management to get
better equipment.  Where I come from my word and the fact that Outlook
is "slow" is just not enough.  You need to have metrics to prove it.


-----Original Message-----
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 1:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

What do you mean, percentages? You mean, "What percent of the time is my
system accessing the disk?"

If it's handling an SMTP queue, then probably a lot of the time. If it's
hosting a few web pages and has a ton of RAM, probably not all that
frequently. Why is disk utilization over time important? What you SHOULD
be
spending the money on is a baseline study to see what's normal
utilization
for the server. Then, once the baseline is determined, consider what
thresholds are appropriate for warnings and alerts to the IT staff.

(:=

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 12:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


Oh I know to use perfmon but which one under physical disk should I use.
I used read/write time and it goes to like 2000.  I am trying to find
out something that will show a real percentage between 0 and 100 in 0-20
second intervals.  I am willing to look at something third party but
obviously it will depend on price.  I have to put in budget and hope it
gets approved.



-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Oh...
Performance Monitor

-----Original Message-----
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 8:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


I apologize I meant activity utilization like read write utilization.

Thank you,

Alex Gonzalez
Senior Systems Administrator
Handleman Company
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914
-----Original Message-----
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

I got this one program that presents a graphic representation of free
drive
space. At 50% or more, it shows an attractive lady in a state of partial
undress. As the drive free space decreases, the picture changes. Same
attractive lady, but with more clothing.

When she's got two parkas, mittens, a scarf, and snow pants on, it's
time to
seriously increase drive space.

When she's in a coffin, six feet under, your server's dead.

Very easy GUI to understand and really gives an incentive to most IT
staff
to keep the drives free and clear of useless junk. Although, I should
warn
you, some folks like to load a bunch of files on a server and then
delete
them slowly while watching those parkas come off...

(:=

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 10:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


me eyeballs.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gonzalez, Alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 10:41 AM
Subject: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


I was wondering what everyone used to monitor the disk utilization on
your
Exchange Servers.

Thank you,

Alex


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