There's a reg hack that will hide the M: and put that part of the issue to
bed for good.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Dann
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 5:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


Acknowledged that the M drive is special, can't say it is non existent as it
appears in the folder tree. The question is more about how to avoid the
interactions that cause the hanging behaviour. 

Knowing the mechanism of the lockup would be useful. Setting the exclusion
on an anti virus product should be easy, the backup agent shouldn't need
configuration to exclude drives, that is something done when specifying a
backup. This is why I suspect dependencies may be an issue (the basic backup
agent wouldn't know about Exchange).

If anyone has seen this behaviour it would be interesting to know what they
found. If it hasn't been seen then maybe I should be looking for a cause not
related to Exchange.

regards,
Richard Dann

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Sent: 10 June 2003 19:01
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


As I'm sure everyone will tell you shortly, there is no M: drive.  It does
not exist.  Make sure nothing tries to touch the non-existent M: drive,
especially AV products.

David

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Dann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 10:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: E2K machine services hanging on starting


I've got an Exchange 2000 SP3 machine running on a security hardened W2K SP3
machine. If I attempt to run an anti virus product on the non Exchange files
I've had problems with services hanging on starting (if the AV was allowed
to scan the M drive all sorts of things started locking up).

I've also tried installing a backup application (HP Omniback) to allow
backup to a large tape silo. this caused similar problems (SRS service
showed up as Starting, unable to start or stop other services) until I set
it to manual start and let everything else start first. 

Has anyone seen similar problems? Do I need to set a dependency for the
backup service or is there something more fundamental going on?

regards,
Richard Dann

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