Network? Antivirus software? Name resolution? Build a clean W2K machine with
just Outlook installed and see what happens.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 11 July 2003 14:42
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Recipient update service


Actually, the trouble began when I applied the hotfixes listed below.

Upon further conversation, I removed these hot fixes.
        And now, the problems I am seeing are:
                
                When outlook is launched, AFTER it looks like it is ready to
go, (You can see your folders and email etc.)
                it freezes for approx 60 seconds and then seems to work
fine.  This occurs on ALL workstations.
                But oddly enough, Web Outlook works just fine.

                Some users, when they create a new email, or reply to an
email, will experience a wait of up to a minute before the message is
actually sent.  The message will stay on their screen and basically lock up
outlook until it sends.
        
Obviously, this is very frustration, and I am not sure what to do next...
Any help would be appreciated

                


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Title:      Buffer Overrun In HTML Converter Could Allow Code 
            Execution (823559)
Date:       09 July 2003
Software:   Microsoft(r) Windows (r) 98
            Microsoft Windows 98 Second Edition 
            Microsoft Windows Me 
            Microsoft Windows NT 4.0 
            Microsoft Windows NT 4.0 Terminal Services Edition 
            Microsoft Windows 2000 
            Microsoft Windows XP 
            Microsoft Windows Server 2003  
Impact:     Allow an attacker to execute code of their choice
Max Risk:   Critical
Bulletin:   MS03-023

Microsoft encourages customers to review the Security Bulletins
at: 
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-023.asp
http://www.microsoft.com/security/security_bulletins/ms03-023.asp
- - ---------------------------------------------------------------

- - - ---------------------------------------------------------------
Title:      Flaw in Windows Message Handling through Utility 
            Manager Could Enable Privilege Elevation (822679)
Date:       09 July 2003
Software:   Microsoft(r) Windows (r) 2000
Impact:     Privilege Elevation
Max Risk:   Important
Bulletin:   MS03-025

Microsoft encourages customers to review the Security Bulletins
at: 
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-025.asp
http://www.microsoft.com/security/security_bulletins/ms03-025.asp
- - - ---------------------------------------------------------------

Title:  Buffer Overrun in Windows Could Lead to Data 
        Corruption (817606)
Date:       09 July 2003
Software:   
 - Microsoft Windows NT Server 4.0
 - Microsoft Windows NT Server 4.0, Terminal Server Edition
 - Microsoft Windows 2000
 - Windows XP Professional 
Impact:     Allow an attacker to execute code of their choice
Max Risk:   Important
Bulletin:   MS03-024

Microsoft encourages customers to review the Security Bulletins
at: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-
024.asp http://www.microsoft.com/security/security_bulletins/ms03-024.asp
- - -----------------------------------------------------------------

John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Digital Display Systems.

Alpha Video
7711 Computer Ave.
Edina, MN. 55435
 
952-896-9898 Local
800-388-0008 Watts
952-896-9899 Fax
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"Be excellent to each other"
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-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 9:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Recipient update service


Then it isn't a flat-file backup any more.  As soon as you use the agent for
Exchange, it is a Full Online backup.  A Flat-file backup would be
considered an Offline backup when nothing is being written to the databases
(thus the files are not open and are "flat").

Sounds like it is working fine for you. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner & White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-----Original Message-----
From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Friday, July 11, 2003 9:17 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: Recipient update service
Subject: RE: Recipient update service


The Retrospect Exchange Agent does not require that.
It is made to do online backups

John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Digital Display Systems.

Alpha Video
7711 Computer Ave.
Edina, MN. 55435
 
952-896-9898 Local
800-388-0008 Watts
952-896-9899 Fax
612-804-8769 Cell
952-841-3327 Direct

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Be excellent to each other"
---End of Line---



-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 9:15 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Recipient update service


You must stop all your Exchange services every night before doing your
backup, then, right? 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner & White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-----Original Message-----
From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Thursday, July 10,
2003 4:03 PM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: Recipient update service
Subject: RE: Recipient update service


I do a flat file backup using Retrospect for exchange and then also use
backupexec 8.5 as well. Have yet to show any errors.


John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Digital Display Systems.

Alpha Video
7711 Computer Ave.
Edina, MN. 55435
 
952-896-9898 Local
800-388-0008 Watts
952-896-9899 Fax
612-804-8769 Cell
952-841-3327 Direct

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Be excellent to each other"
---End of Line---



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 4:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Recipient update service


I had HTML display problems after this patch.  As a test I applied the
DirectX 9.0 runtimes that show up in Windows Update, rebooted, and all was
well.  I can't say that it wasn't just the reboot that fixed it, however,
I'm wondering if the issue wasn't interaction between that patch and W2K
SP4, something like that.


-----Original Message-----
From: Hutchins, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 12:33 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Recipient update service


MS03-023 has caused about 6 workstations here to endlessly reboot...

I haven't tried it personally, but a couple guys in my group have and are
hosed..

Don't know about the others causing any specific issues.
 


-----Original Message-----
From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 1:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

- - ---------------------------------------------------------------
Title:      Buffer Overrun In HTML Converter Could Allow Code 
            Execution (823559)
Date:       09 July 2003
Software:   Microsoft(r) Windows (r) 98
            Microsoft Windows 98 Second Edition 
            Microsoft Windows Me 
            Microsoft Windows NT 4.0 
            Microsoft Windows NT 4.0 Terminal Services Edition 
            Microsoft Windows 2000 
            Microsoft Windows XP 
            Microsoft Windows Server 2003  
Impact:     Allow an attacker to execute code of their choice
Max Risk:   Critical
Bulletin:   MS03-023

Microsoft encourages customers to review the Security Bulletins
at: 
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-023.asp
http://www.microsoft.com/security/security_bulletins/ms03-023.asp
- - ---------------------------------------------------------------

- - - ---------------------------------------------------------------
Title:      Flaw in Windows Message Handling through Utility 
            Manager Could Enable Privilege Elevation (822679)
Date:       09 July 2003
Software:   Microsoft(r) Windows (r) 2000
Impact:     Privilege Elevation
Max Risk:   Important
Bulletin:   MS03-025

Microsoft encourages customers to review the Security Bulletins
at: 
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-025.asp
http://www.microsoft.com/security/security_bulletins/ms03-025.asp
- - - ---------------------------------------------------------------

Title:  Buffer Overrun in Windows Could Lead to Data 
        Corruption (817606)
Date:       09 July 2003
Software:   
 - Microsoft Windows NT Server 4.0
 - Microsoft Windows NT Server 4.0, Terminal Server Edition
 - Microsoft Windows 2000
 - Windows XP Professional 
Impact:     Allow an attacker to execute code of their choice
Max Risk:   Important
Bulletin:   MS03-024

Microsoft encourages customers to review the Security Bulletins
at: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-
024.asp http://www.microsoft.com/security/security_bulletins/ms03-024.asp
- - -----------------------------------------------------------------



John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Digital Display Systems.

Alpha Video
7711 Computer Ave.
Edina, MN. 55435
 
952-896-9898 Local
800-388-0008 Watts
952-896-9899 Fax
612-804-8769 Cell
952-841-3327 Direct

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Be excellent to each other"
---End of Line---



-----Original Message-----
From: Hutchins, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 2:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Recipient update service


Hmmm... Hotfixes bad

Sp's good (hopefully)

Were you experiencing any of the symptoms described in the hotfix(es) you
installed? 

Which were they? (kb articles) 


-----Original Message-----
From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 1:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

No known Network issues.

CPU is at 2%
Mem is at 505232 of 2 GB

Attributes pop up instantly.

I did notice on reboot, that the info store took about 10 minutes to start.
(9GB)

I did install the hotfixes that MS released yesterday.  They were installed
last evening.



John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Digital Display Systems.

Alpha Video
7711 Computer Ave.
Edina, MN. 55435
 
952-896-9898 Local
800-388-0008 Watts
952-896-9899 Fax
612-804-8769 Cell
952-841-3327 Direct

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Be excellent to each other"
---End of Line---



-----Original Message-----
From: Hutchins, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 2:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Recipient update service


Are there any network problems going on locally?

Can you get attributes from a user in the GAL very fast, or does it seem
abnormally slow?

Do you have ant sniffer, netmon type things? It sounds like a ds problem.
Outside email would use smtp and dns. So may not see a delay there, perhaps
categorizer issues?

Just sorta rambling now, sorry.. 


-----Original Message-----
From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 1:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

Since I began the rebuild this fine a.m., I have been experiencing periods
of sluggishness. But ONLY internally. 
When sending an internal email, it could take upwards of 30 seconds before
the email gets sent. With any outside address though, it is instant.

Not finding anything in the logs.
Kind of at a loss.


Any help would definitely be appreciated.


John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Digital Display Systems.

Alpha Video
7711 Computer Ave.
Edina, MN. 55435
 
952-896-9898 Local
800-388-0008 Watts
952-896-9899 Fax
612-804-8769 Cell
952-841-3327 Direct

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Be excellent to each other"
---End of Line---



-----Original Message-----
From: Hutchins, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 2:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Recipient update service


Yes (see michaels reply)
Not a big one but there is always *some* performance hit See my first answer
 


-----Original Message-----
From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 1:12 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

Is there a way to check it's progress?
Is there a performance hit?
Any idea how long it should take with a 9-10 GB priv.edb?


John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Digital Display Systems.

Alpha Video
7711 Computer Ave.
Edina, MN. 55435
 
952-896-9898 Local
800-388-0008 Watts
952-896-9899 Fax
612-804-8769 Cell
952-841-3327 Direct

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Be excellent to each other"
---End of Line---



-----Original Message-----
From: Hutchins, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 2:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Recipient update service


As long as it takes, and no, you can't stop it. It depends on DS access
speed, processor, etc.. 


-----Original Message-----
From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 1:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

I know how to do that.
I am talking about when you do a rebuild of the Recipient update service. My
question is, how long should it take with a Priv.edb size of 9-10 GB? And
should you see a performance hit while it goes on?

John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Digital Display Systems.

Alpha Video
7711 Computer Ave.
Edina, MN. 55435
 
952-896-9898 Local
800-388-0008 Watts
952-896-9899 Fax
612-804-8769 Cell
952-841-3327 Direct

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Be excellent to each other"
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