Yea, we went through all that as well.
I got tired of trying to explain it to my duck.
Creating the separate job was the only solution, silly as it sounds..

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ray Beckwith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 12:35 PM
Subject: RE: Timeout Errors Backing up Exchange 2000 with Backup Exec 9


Tried that. The job just failed earlier. Unfortunately, one of the changes
to BEX9 includes using NDMP for agent communications. A side affect is that,
communications failures with one agent can cause the entire job to fail from
that point. Example, Exchange server third out of 15, first 2 servers backup
successfully, Exchange gets error, job throws up hands in confusion and
doesn't attempt to backup any other servers. 13 servers fail...



Thanks...Ray

Thought for the day:
A good rule of thumb is if you've made it to thirty-five and your job still
requires you to wear a name tag, you've made a serious vocational error.
--Dennis Miller



-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 9:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Timeout Errors Backing up Exchange 2000 with Backup Exec 9


Maybe just changing the order would work

--------------------------------------------------------------
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ray Beckwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 11:44 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Timeout Errors Backing up Exchange 2000 with
> Backup Exec 9
>
>
> No problems backing up the store with NT Backup. In fact, no
> problems backing up the store alone with Backup Exec. Problem
> seems only to happen when backing up all (15 total) servers
> in one job.
>
> Last night we tried separating out the Exchange backup in a
> separate job and I'm still waiting for it to complete. Will
> update the list with results.
>
>
>
> Thanks...Ray
>
> Thought for the day:
> A good rule of thumb is if you've made it to thirty-five and
> your job still requires you to wear a name tag, you've made a
> serious vocational error.
> --Dennis Miller
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 4:10 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Timeout Errors Backing up Exchange 2000 with
> Backup Exec 9
>
>
> Other than Andy's suggestion of trying NTBackup, have you
> looked to see that
> the Backup Exec agent is running with sufficient rights?
>
> SP4 for Win2k changes some of the permissions levels to better match
> Win2k3's permissions model, and quite specifically it changes network
> permissions. Windows 2000 & .Net magazine had a web article
> about it not too
> long ago, which I stumbled across the other day.
> http://www.win2000mag.net/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=39534
>
> From the article:
> "One end result is that some programs, plus services not
> under control of
> svchost.exe, might not behave as expected when they logon
> with an account
> that does not have the 'Impersonate a client after
> authentication' right. "
>
> I wonder if that's not the cause of the issue.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis Inc.
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ray Beckwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 7:49 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Timeout Errors Backing up Exchange 2000 with Backup Exec 9
> >
> >
> > Exchange 2000 Server - SP3 running on Windows Server (DC) 2000 - SP4
> >
> > Question:
> > Running BackupExec 9.0 Build 4454 (the latest) and have been
> > getting the following error almost exclusively during the
> > Exchange server portion of the backup.
> >
> > Final error code: a00084f8 HEX
> > Final error description: A timeout occurred waiting for data
> > from the agent during operation shutdown.
> >
> > We have been working with support for a couple months and
> > they keep pointing at network problems but aren't offering
> > much more help on what types of problems to look for. As far
> > as we can tell we are a standard network setup; Windows 2000
> > Active Directory, all up to date on service packs; one
> > Exchange server and one SQL server (separate machines); no
> > apparent network problems or bottlenecks in everyday operations.
> >
> > We've tried setting the ports explicitly to 100mb Full duplex
> > at the Exchange server, backup server and switch ports. We
> > tried stopping our ScanMail application also and verified
> > that none of the Exchange maintenance tasks were running at
> > the time of the backup.
> >
> > Is there anyone out there that might be able to offer any
> > more suggestions on how to troubleshoot these problems? We
> > are not getting reliable backups and are looking for whatever
> > help we can find.
> >
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