Tony,

If you agree with Andy, then why not do something about it and CHANGE
THE SUBJECT?!

themolk. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, 16 September 2003 9:16 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?
> 
> 
> I completely agree with you.
> 
> I have progressed on the issue.  I deleted the administrator 
> local profile, now the tools work.
> 
> However, I am getting a nasty message in the event log that 
> suggests there is a schema problem...
> 
> Maybe Ed can look at it ?
> 
> Source EXOLEDB
> Event Id 111
> Microsoft Exchange OLEDB was unable to do Schema propagation 
> on MDB startup HRESULT = 0x80040e19
> 
> Is a Windows 2003 Server with Exchange 2003, recently 
> upgraded from Windows 2000 & Exchange 2000...
> 
> Thanks
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Webb, Andy
> Sent: 16 September 2003 00:17
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?
> 
> 
> The question is, do you have anything to contribute to the 
> ethics/book discussion or are you just hijacking this topic?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 3:44 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?
> 
> Do any of you 2 know anything about my issue?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Hoffman
> Sent: 15 September 2003 21:26
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?
> 
> 
> Hear hear.  It's not like IT professionals are politicians 
> taking kickbacks and getting thousands and thousands of 
> dollars in gift money.  Doctors need a code of ethics because 
> of the nature of their career-path; it's so amazingly easy to 
> ruin someone's life as a doctor (or save it, of course). You 
> tell me where we have such power.
> 
> Matt
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 4:12 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?
> 
> 
> The problem with Deckler's "ethics" argument, as Andy pointed 
> out, is that by his logic if you have Cisco golf shirt 
> hanging in your closet then you are automatically unethical.  
> Equally absurd is his assertion that lawyers and doctors 
> don't face the same issues -- my mother is a medical 
> professional; she spent 20 years in private medical practice 
> in Los Angeles and I can assure you that there was hardly a 
> pencil holder, ruler or coffee mug in her home that didn't 
> have the name of some pharmaceutical on it.
> 
> I work for lawyers and I guarantee you that if it's raining 
> hard in downtown Honolulu you will see attorneys crossing the 
> street with "Lexis/Nexis" and "Bank of Hawaii" umbrellas.  
> Are we to believe that a tax attorney with a "Bank of Hawaii" 
> umbrella is unethical because he's going to automatically 
> steer all of his clients to place their investment accounts at BankOH?
> 
> Greg believes that because I'm a Microsoft MVP that I'm just 
> an unethical front for Microsoft with a massive conflict of 
> interest and thus unable to properly represent any other 
> product.  A ludicrous assertion on the face of it: I make no 
> commissions, Microsoft doesn't know or care how often (or if 
> at all) I recommend their products and my MVP status is in no 
> way dependant upon my advocating Microsoft products. 
> Microsoft has not threatened to revoke my status because I 
> have a couple of Linux boxes down the hall. Microsoft MVPs 
> are often some of Microsoft's harshest critics; especially to 
> their faces.
> 
> The fact is that despite my MVP status my firm is still a 
> WordPerfect shop.  I have a handful of very nice ProLaw pens 
> that the sales rep gave me and exactly zero seats of ProLaw 
> installed.  I have Symantec hats, pens and Post-It pads...but 
> no Symantec software currently installed. Epson sent me some 
> promotional pens and laser pointers in exchange for receiving 
> literature about their new projectors -- I haven't bought a 
> new projector in about 3 years.  If I do, I'll consider Epson 
> along with several other brands.  I'm a CNA with no NetWare installed.
> 
> Maybe I am the rare IT guy with nerves of steel, but the fact 
> is that some vendor giving my knick-knacks, some initials or 
> a free CD of demo software just isn't going to cause me to 
> recommend a solution that I don't believe is the best solution.  
> 
> -Ben-
> Ben M. Schorr, MVP-OneNote, CNA, MCPx4
> Director of Information Services
> Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
> http://www.hawaiilawyer.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joel Wampler
> Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 3:30 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?
> 
> maybe i'm missing something here, but i just read that ethics 
> thing and it looks like this to me
> 
> if you ask 100 people on the street who is more professional 
> a doctor or it guy, probably everyone would say doctor
> 
> ergo if it people want to be considered as professional as 
> doctors and get paid similar salaries then we need to create 
> a professional governing body and not have silly things like 
> "microsoft" certification
> 
> that would be the equivalent of having "pfizer" certification 
> as a doctor, which dont make no sense
> 
> obviously there are some strong feelings about some past 
> history that i have no idea about but the ethics piece looks 
> like a sound argument to me
> 
> 
> > Same old bag of gas.  "IT consultants are all unprofessional except
> for me."
> > 
> > 
> > Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> > Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
> > Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
> > 
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