Isn't that the reason you drink Pepsi? Otherwise there's water, right? . . . I think that's what they call it!
----- Original Message ----- From: "Hatley, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 1:53 PM Subject: RE: Password Mainenance > Caffeine Free??? Definitely not a typical admin! > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 2:13 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Password Mainenance > > Well.. That's another service call logged to IT. > > John Matteson > Geac Corporate ISS > (404) 239 - 2981 > Atlanta, Georgia, USA. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Posted At: Thursday, October 23, 2003 12:14 PM > Posted To: Exchange Discussion List > Conversation: Password Mainenance > Subject: RE: Password Mainenance > > > <spits Caffeine free Pepsi on monitor> > > > Ben Winzenz > Network Engineer > Gardner & White > (317) 581-1580 ext 418 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Posted At: Thursday, October 23, 2003 10:47 AM > Posted To: Exchange (Swynk) > Conversation: Password Mainenance > Subject: RE: Password Mainenance > > > While you're at it, you might as well collect everyone's ATM PIN for > safekeeping. > > Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP > Freelance E-Mail Philosopher > Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Parker > Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 8:12 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Password Mainenance > > Your points are valid Ben. > I started here 6 years ago and it was my 1st admin job. > Having a list of all passwords semmed like the right thing to do at the > time. And yes, management is aware of the list. I think I am going to > take your advice on the GP password management. Just gotta hand it off. > > I know where in GP the password policy is, but right now, in the user > acounts, "Password never expires" is checked. In order fro GP to do it's > job, I will need to uncheck that. Correct? > > John Parker, MCSE > IS Admin. > Senior Technical Specialist > Digital Display Systems. > > Alpha Video > 7711 Computer Ave. > Edina, MN. 55435 > > 952-896-9898 Local > 800-388-0008 Watts > 952-896-9899 Fax > 612-804-8769 Cell > 952-841-3327 Direct > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > "Be excellent to each other" > ---End of Line--- > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 9:33 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Password Mainenance > > > Why is it necessary that you keep a list of all the passwords? It is > one thing to have a list of service account passwords, and such, but all > users is quite another thing. It is a HUGE security risk. Imagine what > would happen if someone got ahold of the document that had everyones > passwords. If you are using Exchange (valid assumption I think since > this is an Exchange list), then you are using either NT or Windows 2000. > Why can't you have your users manage their own passwords? Every client > that logs in to the domain should have the ability to change their > password - even 9x clients can change their passwords. This is not > something that you should be doing or should have to do - now of course > that is only my opinion and you are free to do as you like, but I would > rather choke myself than have to maintain all my users passwords for > them. Does HR know that you maintain a list of everyone's password? > Does your corporate lawyer know? If not, you better make sure they do. > > I realize I am probably not being helpful to what you are wanting to do, > but I (and probably most of the others on this list) have never run > across a sysadmin who insisted on maintaining a list of all his/her > users passwords. So if you like, simply dismiss this as a rant from me > - it won't hurt my feelings if you do. I certainly wouldn't wish for > your job if I was required to do what you are doing. > > > Ben Winzenz > Network Engineer > Gardner & White > (317) 581-1580 ext 418 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Thursday, > October 23, 2003 8:46 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk) > Conversation: Password Mainenance > Subject: RE: Password Mainenance > > > No. > > We have always manually created the passwords in the past and kept a > list. Doesn't make me a hacker of any sort. The company is getting so > big, Just looking for a way of automating it yet maintaining a password > structure. I am one person managing two departments and too many servers > and sorkstations :) > > John Parker, MCSE > IS Admin. > Senior Technical Specialist > Digital Display Systems. > > Alpha Video > 7711 Computer Ave. > Edina, MN. 55435 > > 952-896-9898 Local > 800-388-0008 Watts > 952-896-9899 Fax > 612-804-8769 Cell > 952-841-3327 Direct > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > "Be excellent to each other" > ---End of Line--- > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 8:40 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Password Mainenance > > > What, you mean report what all the new passwords are to you? Are you > out of your mind? I sure hope you are kidding. If you seriously want > to get a list of ALL passwords, why don't you go out and buy LophtCrack > - after all, what you are wanting is something to make you a hacker of > the company you work for. > > > Ben Winzenz > Network Engineer > Gardner & White > (317) 581-1580 ext 418 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Thursday, > October 23, 2003 7:47 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk) > Conversation: Disappearing email > Subject: Password Mainenance > > > Hey all, I am nearing a time when once again, I need to do a password > change for my company. > > Is there any password automation out there, that will allow me to setup > a password structure, changes the passwords and give me a report of the > new ones? > > There has to be something out there like that... > > Thanks > > John Parker, MCSE > IS Admin. > Senior Technical Specialist > Digital Display Systems. > Alpha Video > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web Interface: > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; > lang=english > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web Interface: > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; > lang=english > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web Interface: > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; > lang=english > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web Interface: > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; > lang > =english > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web Interface: > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; > lang > =english > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web Interface: > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; > lang=english > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web Interface: > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; > lang=english > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
