Id say your getting minor packet loss at a guess, meaning the connection
is not being held up long enough for the mail to be delivered?  I would
say there are a lot of aspects to consider when diagnosing such a
problem.


BTW, is Kazakhstan a real place then?  I thought it was a place used in
Jest by Ali-G!

-----Original Message-----
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 29 October 2003 10:02
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: connection

I'm having trouble receiving emails from one of our offices in
Kazakhstan, and I don't have a clue where the problem lies, 
Can anyone give a hint? 

Thanks, 
Kim


This is the error message they receive when sending mail to us, and
below that is a tracert from Kazakhstan to our server: 

----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 2:48 PM
Subject: failure notice


> Hi. This is the qmail-send program at academset.kz.
> I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following
addresses.
> This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Connected to 213.177.134.28 but connection died. (#4.4.2)
> I'm not going to try again; this message has been in the queue too
> long.
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Connected to 213.177.134.28 but connection died. (#4.4.2)
> I'm not going to try again; this message has been in the queue too
> long.
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Connected to 213.177.134.28 but connection died. (#4.4.2)
> I'm not going to try again; this message has been in the queue too
> long.
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Connected to 213.177.134.28 but connection died. (#4.4.2)
> I'm not going to try again; this message has been in the queue too
> long.
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Connected to 213.177.134.28 but connection died. (#4.4.2)
> I'm not going to try again; this message has been in the queue too
> long.
>
> --- Below this line is a copy of the message.
>
> Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Received: (qmail 33718 invoked from network); 20 Oct 2003 05:37:34
> -0000
> Received: from unknown (HELO MAGESTIC) (192.168.10.13)
>   by 0 with SMTP; 20 Oct 2003 05:37:30 -0000
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> From: "Kamila Magzieva" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Manfred Spiesberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "Joelle Lepot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Aoife Leydon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Catherine Verschoore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Kim Schotanus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Fw: failure notice
> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 11:38:45 +0700
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
> boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003D_01C396FE.B83CFC90"
> X-Priority: 3
> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106
> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106
>
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>
> ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C396FE.B83CFC90
> Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="koi8-r"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>


C:\>tracert mail.intas.be

Tracing route to mail.intas.be [213.177.134.28]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1   <10 ms   <10 ms   <10 ms  MAGESTIC [192.168.0.1]
  2   <10 ms   <10 ms   <10 ms  10.10.1.1
  3    10 ms    20 ms    20 ms  212.154.128.17
  4    30 ms    30 ms    40 ms  212.19.148.106
  5   120 ms   300 ms   180 ms  car1-serial6-0-0.Frankfurt.cw.net 
[166.63.197.25]
  6   210 ms   211 ms   210 ms  bcr1.Frankfurt.cw.net [166.63.194.61]
  7   120 ms   130 ms   140 ms  zcr2-so-1-0-0.Frankfurtfri.cw.net 
[166.63.195.190]
  8   190 ms   130 ms   130 ms  zpr1-ge-1-3-0.Frankfurtfix.cw.net 
[166.63.204.86]
  9   341 ms   340 ms   481 ms  so-2-2-1.fra30.ip.tiscali.net 
[213.200.64.41]
10   451 ms   341 ms   350 ms  so-1-0-0.anr10.ip.tiscali.net 
[213.200.81.105]
11   351 ms   340 ms   341 ms  tiscali-be-2.ip.tiscali.net
[213.200.69.22]
12   361 ms   721 ms   601 ms  ge-11-1.sw-01.bru.net.tiscali.be 
[62.235.3.209]
13   521 ms   481 ms   360 ms  ge-9-0-0-bfr.bru-ix.be.wanadoo.com 
[195.74.202.5]
14     *        *        *     Request timed out.
15   360 ms   661 ms   631 ms  adsl-134-28.wanadoo.be [213.177.134.28]

Trace complete.

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