I think what Candee means is (I'm much too cautious to claim I know what she
meant), instead of letting them in past the relay server, have the relay
server send them to /dev/null or the equivalent in whatever your relay
server is. Then none of your internal bandwidth is wasted on sending them on
to the Exchange server.


Ronni

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hilda De Nigris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 12:04 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Does anyone know how to get rid of unwanted emails?
> 
> 
>   The Relay Server is forwarding them to the Exchange.  What 
> we don't want is Exchange to send them back to the Relay.  
> When it does, they all sit in a DEADLETTER Queue and 99% of 
> the time, the sender is unknown. Besides, 99% of these emails 
> are SPAM anyway.  
> 
> > It sounds like you want to drop them at the relay server; 
> not the exchange
> > server.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Smith, Ronni [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 2:05 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Does anyone know how to get rid of unwanted emails?
> > 
> > 
> > Hmm, sounds like you have configured it correctly. You have 
> removed the
> > mailboxes right? Not just restricted their send/receive or 
> something? I'm
> > not sure what would happen in that case.
> > 
> > I only have the one server (and it is an Exchange 5.5 
> machine), so I don't
> > know if it is related to the existence of the relay server 
> or not. But yes,
> > you can track what comes into your Exchange server. If you 
> have the smtp
> > protocol logging set to medium I believe it should show you 
> if the relay
> > server is trying to pass those addresses on. And you might 
> be able to see
> > what you need with a lower logging level than that. I just 
> have mine set
> > there and I can see mail coming in for addresses on my 
> black hole list. You
> > should be able to see if it is bouncing the addresses or 
> accepting them.
> > You'll have to find a way to manage a fair amount of log 
> data if you get a
> > lot of email coming in but it shouldn't take too long to 
> do, just send your
> > own test message and then look for it. Or just look for one 
> of the bad
> > addresses.
> > 
> > Ronni
> > 
> > *********************************
> > "Once you embrace the fact that most folks in the world 
> don't get it, you
> > waste a lot less time trying to teach pigs to dance."  
> -Cthulhu Jones, June
> > 2000
> > ---------------------------------
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Hilda De Nigris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 6:48 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Does anyone know how to get rid of unwanted emails?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hi Ronni,
> > > 
> > > I'm having difficulty understanding what you mean by 
> "alternate".  I 
> > > created a DL called "DEPARTURES", then under the EMAIL 
> ADDRESSES tab 
> > > of the DL I added all the SMTP addresses of the employees that
> > > have left the
> > > firm.  Under the GENERAL tab, there is no one listed because 
> > > there is no
> > > physical mailbox.  But, when I look at my relay server, I 
> still see
> > > messages held in the queue of the addresses I listed in this 
> > > DL list. The
> > > Relay should be sending these emails to the Exchange 
> Server since the
> > > addresses are valid even though they don't belong to anyone.
> > > 
> > > Is there any way I can monitor on the Exchange Server as to
> > > which emails
> > > got sent to the Black-hole?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > I think you misread/misunderstood. You want to list all the
> > > e-mail addresses
> > > > that you want to go poof as alternate internet addresses
> > > _for_ the DL. The
> > > > dl has no addresses in it. So when it is expanded it
> > > expands to nothing.
> > > > Hence the black hole.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Ronni
> > > > 
> > > > *********************************
> > > > In theory, there is no difference between theory and
> > > practice. But, in
> > > > practice, there is.
> > > > ---------------------------------
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Hilda De Nigris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 11:52 AM
> > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > Subject: Does anyone know how to get rid of unwanted emails?
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > We have a relay system that holds so much unwanted emails
> > > > > from users who
> > > > > have changed their SMTP addresses as well as those that 
> > > have left the
> > > > > firm.  I read a TID that says if you create a DL
> > > > > (distribution list) on
> > > > > the Exchange (5.5) Server and list all the SMTP addresses 
> > > > > inside the DL,
> > > > > that the Exchange server will just drop all these unwanted 
> > > > > emails into a
> > > > > black hole.  Well, I tried this and obviously it does not 
> > > > > seem to work.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Any ideas?
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
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