One common way is to have the users delete any items in sent items that are not needed.


From: "trentwh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Private Store size problems. Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:12:06 -0600

If you don't have them already, set limits on mailboxes to a point where the
store won't fill up.

If you already have them, sounds like they need to be lowered.  Start with
those in a position to help you get Enterprise.



-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eric Fretz
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 8:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Private Store size problems.


This definitely falls into the "No crap" category. If this were my box from the beginning, I would have used enterprise edition. I inherited this box and will be stuck with it until the end of the year.

Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



-----Original Message-----
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 8:16 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Private Store size problems.


The same thing that would have prevented the problem in the first place: install Enterprise Edition.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 9:07 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Private Store size problems.
>
>
> Good points.  I'm doing a full-court press to get us upgraded
> to Exchange
> 2000 Enterprise at the same time.  As far as the temp drive
> goes, it is a
> 36GB 15k rpm drive, separate from the main storage volume.
> I'm averaging
> around 9 GB / hour, so I'm not far from the eseutil's
> theoretical maximum of
> 10 GB / hour.  I guess I should be happy.
>
> My real question should have been this:  What do you do when
> an offline
> defrag won't get Priv.edb filesize small enough to restart
> the Information
> Store?
>
>
> Eric Fretz
>
> L-3 Communications
> ComCept Division
> 2800 Discovery Blvd.
> Rockwall, TX 75032
> tel:   972.772.7501
> fax:  972.772.7510
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 8:04 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Private Store size problems.
>
>
> I'd continue to focus on purchasing the Enterprise version.
> What's the cost
> of yo0ur labor in doing the offline defrag?  What's the cost
> to the company
> in the system downtime for you to do the defrag?  What's the
> cost to the
> company of the system downtime if you do hit the 16GB limit?
> Then compare
> that to the cost of Enterprise Edition.
>
> You'd best delete things from the store while it is up and
> right before you
> do the offline defrag.  You can also reduce the DIR time
> period so things
> get permanently deleted sooner.
>
> Speeding up offline defragmentation:  This is a FAQ - the
> best you can do is
> put things on fast storage, make the temp drive a separate
> spindle from the
> live store.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 8:53 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Private Store size problems.
> >
> >
> > My company has been reluctant to upgrade our exchange 5.5 standard
> > server to 5.5 enterprise and because of this, I bump up against the
> > 16 GB limit about
> > every 20 days.  Is there any way to access the Private store
> > to prune (or
> > even delete) oversize mailboxes while the store is offline?
> > Also, is there
> > any way to speed up eseutil while it's doing an offline
> > defragmentation?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Eric Fretz
> >
> > L-3 Communications
> > ComCept Division
> > 2800 Discovery Blvd.
> > Rockwall, TX 75032
> > tel:   972.772.7501
> > fax:  972.772.7510
> >
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