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-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 8:53 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: Migrating Exchange 5.5 with PSS cut off
Subject: RE: Migrating Exchange 5.5 with PSS cut off


How so?

Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Tuip [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 6:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Migrating Exchange 5.5 with PSS cut off


This list has lost a little of the charm it had back a few years ago
though.

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Martin Tuip
MVP Exchange
Exchange 2000 List owner
www.exchange-mail.org
www.sharepointserver.com
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Boyd, Nathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 4:00 PM
Subject: RE: Migrating Exchange 5.5 with PSS cut off


> Tener was genius!  Although I think Martin Blackstone may disagree.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Tuip [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 3:04 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Migrating Exchange 5.5 with PSS cut off
>
> Tener, Avi Smith-Rapaport and Mark Hanji do no longer post here nor 
> have I seen anything from them in the last 6 months.
>
>
> --------------------------
> Martin Tuip
> MVP Exchange
> Exchange 2000 List owner
> www.exchange-mail.org
> www.sharepointserver.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> --------------------------
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Boyd, Nathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 1:47 PM
> Subject: RE: Migrating Exchange 5.5 with PSS cut off
>
>
> > Sorry Eric, when you have spent over 3 years on this list, different

> > aliases, you will appreciate that some of the new contributors' 
> > posts
can
> be
> > a little irritating.
> >
> > Talking of irritating contributors what happened to Richard Tenner?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 1:40 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Migrating Exchange 5.5 with PSS cut off
> >
> > It was meant to be a joke, a funny, a juxaposition of disprate ideas
used
> to
> > make spontaneous contractions of the lower abdominal muscles.  I was

> > suggesting that we (the list) would be glad to offer our support 
> > during
> his
> > transition, for a nominal fee.  This is of course absurd because
offering
> > our support for free is what we do anyways.
> >
> > You really should get out more often....!
> >
> > Eric Fretz
> >
> > L-3 Communications
> > ComCept Division
> > 2800 Discovery Blvd.
> > Rockwall, TX 75032
> > tel:   972.772.7501
> > fax:  972.772.7510
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Boyd, Nathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 3:37 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Migrating Exchange 5.5 with PSS cut off
> >
> >
> > You mean as opposed to PSS?  What benefits could you provide that
> Microsoft
> > can not?  Will you offer full support for less than $245, and if all
fails
> > send a team of engineers on site?
> >
> > Or are you suggesting this is not a relevant discussion item for 
> > this
> list?
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 1:18 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Migrating Exchange 5.5 with PSS cut off
> >
> > I'm sure that this discussion list would be glad to provide support 
> > for
> you
> > during you transition, for a nominal fee, of course!
> >
> > ;-)
> >
> > Eric
> >
> > Eric Fretz
> >
> > L-3 Communications
> > ComCept Division
> > 2800 Discovery Blvd.
> > Rockwall, TX 75032
> > tel:   972.772.7501
> > fax:  972.772.7510
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Boyd, Nathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 3:17 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Migrating Exchange 5.5 with PSS cut off
> >
> >
> > I am a fellow Exchange 5.5 customer who is thinking about migrating 
> > to
> 2000
> > or 2003 next year.  The question is related to Microsoft ceasing 
> > support
> of
> > 5.5 at the end of next year, and how others are managing their
migrations
> > because of it.
> >
> > We have a native 2000 AD network with a half dozen or so 5.5 
> > servers.
The
> > databases are stored on the SAN, we have 2000 user accounts, OWA and
> Public
> > folders are fully utilized.
> >
> > The issue is we are time constrained with a more important project 
> > that
> does
> > not end until August next year (I'm sure that sounds familiar to 
> > many of you).  Currently that project is all encompassing and we do 
> > not plan to invest time in the mail migration until the other 
> > project is fully completed.
> >
> > Ideally I would have the Exchange migration already completed before

> > the time we are currently planning to start it.  My concern is we 
> > need a
> decent
> > cushion of time before 5.5 support ends, incase of interoperability 
> > problems, I envisage a mixed 5.5 2k/2k3 migration.
> >
> > It may be that in a mixed 5.5 2k/2k3 environment MS would provide
support
> > while we fully move to a support Exchange, even after the PSS cut 
> > off
> time.
> > Any thoughts would be appreciated, am I being over concerned, or 
> > should
I
> be
> > pushing to make this more important?  E-mail is as important a 
> > component
> to
> > our organization as most people, just the other project is moving 
> > our
main
> > premises to a new location, including datacenter.
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
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