Look, if you cannot understand the difference then you are simply not trying. Did you miss the word "from vendors"? Honorary titles, medals and other stuff granted on behalf of a professional society to its members is one thing. Vendors are completely different. If a doctor accepted an honorary title from a drug vendor like Pfizer, they would most likely lose their license to practice. But we will never know because it simply isn't done in professional circles. Research is educating yourself, not doing a 5-minute search on Google for something that you erroneously believe proves your point. Next.
> From that page, > > "2. A profession involves a system of symbolic rewards -- "a system of > rewards (monetary and honorary) that is primarily a set of symbols of work > achievement and thus ends in themselves, not means to some end of individual > self-interest." (36) > > * Honorary rewards "are relatively more important in professional > than in nonprofessional behavior"; this is because monetary rewards are "a > more appropriate reward for individual self-interest" while honorary rewards > (prestige, awards, and other honors) "are more appropriate for community > interest." > > * Honorary rewards: "a combination of prestige and titles, medals, > prizes, offices in professional societies, and so forth..." (36)" > > > Eric Fretz > > L-3 Communications > ComCept Division > 2800 Discovery Blvd. > Rockwall, TX 75032 > tel: 972.772.7501 > fax: 972.772.7510 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 12:29 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 > > > Some more information on Professional Ethic > > http://www.westga.edu/~rlane/professional/lecture_professions&professionaliz > ation2.html > > For those with any interest. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 11:25 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 > > I did not say what you say I said. > > What I said was that, in my opinion, accepting honorary titles from vendors > is a conflict of interest and something that should be avoided by those who > are, or; technically, consider themselves, professional IT people. That is > my opinion. And this is not just my opinion, check out other professions and > their views on accepting honorary titles. Go educate yourself on the subject > matter. > > Now, the other thing that you are incorrect in is that I did not bring this > subject up. This subject came up years and years ago back around 1996/1997 > during normal list discussions. It is not like I just started blasting > people out of the blue. However, it seems that every time I post to this > list somebody is still holding a grudge from 1996/1997 and brings this > subject up. Once it is brought up, I will state my opinion and defend it. > > Money is simply the physical manifestation of ego and thus there is no > difference between the two. I hold myself to my own professional code of > conduct. I have no idea if it is better or different or "longer" than anyone > else's. It is mine and that is all I know. > > > No, You are wrong. > > > > Explain to me how you can tell someone that they are unethical AND not > > expect it to be taken as an insult. You feel justified in your > > position and that is fine. When you come into a public forum and say > > that anyone who is an MVP is unethical, you cannot expect MVPs to take > > it any other way than an insult. By making your opinions as a > > statement, you have committed catagorical slander on a group of people YOU > DON'T EVEN KNOW. > > > > If you had said that you disagree with vendor recognition, but that > > MVPs do a lot of good for the Microsoft community (this discussion > > list being a prime example), then you would be airing your opinion > > with out discrediting the good work that some MVPs do. Can you really > > blame anyone for accepting recognition? It is human nature to want and > deserve laud and attention. > > > > It is obvious that you measure yourself a much longer moral yardstick > > than the rest of us. Perhaps you should start your own Exchange list > > for-the-morally-upright to keep these reactions from happening in the > > future. > > > > Eric Fretz > > > > L-3 Communications > > ComCept Division > > 2800 Discovery Blvd. > > Rockwall, TX 75032 > > tel: 972.772.7501 > > fax: 972.772.7510 > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web Interface: > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang > =english > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web Interface: > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang > =english > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
