First, I never said I was a "master logician". This is simply another in a long line of dozens of mischaracterizations of my posts that proves the fact that you either cannot read, cannot comprehend what you read, choose to embelish what you read or assume things about what you read. What I said was that I stick to the facts and logic, not that I am a "master logician"
Second, philosophers have been arguing over "existence" for a long, long time now. And the fact that I exist is pretty evident and obvious to me at least. Finally, I really have no interest in proving the obvious to you or anyone else. It is obvious that computers and technology have become critically important components of everyone's daily lives. It is obvious that the entire recorded history of occupations and public welfare laws in the United States points to the fact that as an occupation becomes increasingly important to the public welfare that licensing and other laws are passed to regulate it's behavior. It is obvious that without self-regulation that these laws will likely be passed by state governments and could be quite restricting and quite harsh. It is obvious that because of the computer industry's rather libertarian bent that we, as independent computer consultants and professionals, have no single voice with which to speak in order to combat laws and regulations that others would pass to regulate us. It is obvious that with self-regulation comes less of a need for government to pass laws and regulations hence keeping government off our backs. Yes Ed, it is obvious that I sit back in my chair with a nice smug smirk plastered right across my face because I know that if you don't like MY ethics, boy are you going to hate the ethics imposed upon you by government. It makes me laugh so hard that because you and others like you will not even admit to a simple, obvious, conflict of interest that you have doomed EVERYONE in IT to ever increasing government regulation. Why do I laugh? Shouldn't I care because I am in IT as well? I laugh because I don't care. I'll find something else to do. I am no crusader and Ed, frankly, people like you are not worth crusading for. In fact, you; in particular Ed, DESERVE to be regulated by the goverment. No, I cannot prove, or simply choose not to do all the work to prove, the obvious. I cannot prove that an apple is red or that the sky is blue or that we live on a planet that orbits a sun. I also cannot prove that either we regulate ourselves or someone else will do it for us. But, just because I cannot prove it does not mean that it is not true or a fact of life. > "I cannot prove the obvious." > > Then, contrary to your prior assertions, you are hardly a master logician. > > "If you are not willing to accept the obvious, then I will never be able to > prove anything to you." > > As I recall from my schooling in mathematics, even the obvious must be > proved. Just because something is obvious to you doesn't mean that it is a > truth. Mr. Deckler, I assert that much of what is obvious truth to your > mind is not truth in the rest of the world's reality. > > Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP > Freelance E-Mail Philosopher > Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 6:19 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 > > Yes, you are correct Ed. I cannot prove the obvious. I cannot prove that an > apple is red or that the sky is blue or that you live on the planet that > orbits a sun. If you are not willing to accept the obvious, then I will > never be able to prove anything to you. > > > Likewise, and more importantly sinc, you haven't proven your statement > true. > > It is only a "real or perceived" conflict of interest in your own > > mind. You haven't proven anything beyond that. > > > > Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP > > Freelance E-Mail Philosopher > > Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web Interface: > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang > =english > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]