He's not, but I am. ;o) D
"In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king." -Desiderius Erasmus -----Original Message----- From: Joe L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 6:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Circular Logging Ya sure Kevin! I bet your in cahoots with William;-) HAHAHAHA jlc -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 6:24 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Circular Logging That's a bargain.. -- Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE CKST -----Original Message----- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 5:19 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Circular Logging I charge $150/hour. -----Original Message----- From: Paul Armstrong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 5:19 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Circular Logging Well, the problem I foresee currently is that when I moved the files prior to this incident the space got used up very quickly. So I have no space to move those logs files back onto the drive when we implement the Exchange Agent for them. Now I can move some more logfiles but then there will be more log files moved and probably no space to accommodate them later. These logs files date back from 6/10/01. Can I compress say 6/10/01 to 10/30/01 to gain some space? If so, can I move the previously moved files back to the Exchange partition when I get the agent and not have problems when that backup is finally run? -----Original Message----- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 8:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Circular Logging Throw another hard drive in? Sorry. Log file compression is not recommended except in emergencies. But do note, that these log files compress very well. It only takes a few to give you some breathing room. William -----Original Message----- From: Paul Armstrong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 5:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Circular Logging Okay, this sounds like a great idea, but unfortunately there isn't one W2K machine in that office. So what other choices do I have. Circular logging is currently disabled and there is about 2MB free on the partition containing Exchange dB's and logs. the other partitions do not have enough space to move the dB's or the logs too. So I am stuck. I can probably compress the logs but I still need to get it backup somehow to get the logs moved off of the server. Any more ideas? -----Original Message----- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 7:47 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Circular Logging If this is Windows2000, use NTBackup to disk if you have to until proper deployment of Exchange aware backup software is done. Do not implement circular logging. IF you are able to do an online backup tonight AND the log drive is full causing services to stop, then pick a couple of logs and compress them with NTFS compression. This is NOT for regular use. Only for emergency to free up space. Do the online backup. Then look for someone to take the fall to set an example to the others. William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+, ExchangeMVP -----Original Message----- From: Paul Armstrong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 4:34 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Circular Logging Importance: High Hello All, I have a question about a current situation that a client of mine is in. They have an Exchange 5.5 SP2 server which has run out of space! They originally had a tape drive installed on the server and was using Backup Exec with the Exchange agent. they had circular logging enabled but it wasn't a problem because they were backing up every night a the logs were cleared. Now they recently implemented another server and had ArcServe installed on it. They didn't want to maintain two backup apps so they uninstalled BbackupEXec from the Exchange serve and maintained the ArcServe. The ArcServe doesn't have an Exchange agent installed so there is no current backup of that server except for any files on it. I recommended that they get the ArcServe Exchange Agent. AnyHoo, a couple of months ago they ran out of space and they called me. I found out that it was due to not having a recent backup of Exchange and the logs had taken all available space. At this time, backupexec was still installed so I performed a backup and the space was cleared and the server was able to be started again. Now last week they have come across the same exact issue again and the tape drive has been removed and BackupExec uninstalled. So all I could do was move some of the log files to another server and again recommend that they get the ArcServe Exchange Agent. now, they recently got hit with Goner and there back to the space issue again. They have finally approved the Exchange agent but we are waiting for it to be delivered. So right now, the server is down because Exchange wont start due to lack of drive space. I cannot move the log files anymore because the prior relocation took up the space on another volume. I am thinking of disabling circular logging to let the logs files not take up the space they are currently using. Is this a wise move? What other options do I have. Any immediate answers would be greatly appreciated! TIA!!! 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