*LONG* before Larry's little Comdex offering. You know the one. Everyone should have an email server that scales to 1million users per server. Ya. That one.
William -----Original Message----- From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 10:43 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT - Domino/Notes Versus Exchange Nah. He's just making sound like he's more in the know than he really is. And the decision to move to an SQL back end was made way before Larry's little announcement. -----Original Message----- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 6:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT - Domino/Notes Versus Exchange I don't think I met Roger Jennings in Redmond. Was he there? The decision to move to SQL really has nothing to do with Oracle. Odd. William -----Original Message----- From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 2:57 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT - Domino/Notes Versus Exchange http://www.fawcette.com/dotnetmag/2002_01/online/online_eprods/sql_rjennings 01_04/ > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick Ward - HQ [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 3:21 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: OT - Domino/Notes Versus Exchange > > See >>> below > -----Original Message----- > From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 12:01 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: OT - Domino/Notes Versus Exchange > > > >>Try waiting until the next version of Exchange.. It will be fully > integrated with SQL2Kxx as Exchange and WIN2Kxx will rely on it for > ALL the DB level work. > > Really? What have you heard? > > >>>Can't disclose my source.. but this is definately in work.. in fact > >>>it > has a code name already. > > >>I hope they provide a clean upgrade path from 5.5 SPx, there are a > >>lot > of us out there. > > So you'll stay on 5.5 for another 1-2 years... maybe more? > >>> Sure why not. If it ain't broke... hehehe.. > Seriously.. IMHO XCHG 5.5 is considerably more reliable than XCHG2K. > Granted 5.5 doesn't have some of the "NEW" "COOL" features, but from > all that I've seen and experienced in testing XCHG2K my confidence > wasn't improved at all to do a major conversion across 34 Sites in 27 > States. XCHG2K also hasn't been too popular in the "new" email market > (kinda like XP for OS's). I think the concept and design was excellent > but it fell short on the functionality level to me. Not to mention > administration is a LOT different and to retrain all 8 of our > Admins(who are already Exchange > weak) would have been more to deal with as well. Of course that's my > problem. > > -Rick > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 11:56 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: OT - Domino/Notes Versus Exchange > > > > Try waiting until the next version of Exchange.. It will be fully > integrated with SQL2Kxx as Exchange and WIN2Kxx will rely on it for > ALL the DB level work. Imagine using a DB engine that works > consistently for it to manage all records without the "constant" DB > glitches inherent to JET. > > Personally/Professionally I don't like XCHG2K enough to move towards > it.. My only concern is that I "might" have to upgrade to XCHG2K > before I can go to this new version. I hope they provide a clean > upgrade path from 5.5 SPx, there are a lot of us out there. > > -Rick > -----Original Message----- > From: Jen [ <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 11:22 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: Re: OT - Domino/Notes Versus Exchange > > > You guys have been pretty entertaining today. Actually I have been > considering the conversion from Exchange to Domino for a while but > this has been quite informative. This really must be a hot topic right > now; I just received a tech target newlsetter comparing the two a few > minutes ago. As a fledling admin I haven't been very excited with the > concept of converting the entire campus to AD to get the (what seems > to me) limited benefits of EX 2K. Unfortunately I haven't found many > other viable options either. Since this is an Exchange-stroking sort > of group, I wouldn't expect that you would have any advice? I guess if > I have you guys around I can use your help on the conversion. ;-) > (Emoticons & Groupshield, I know how to make everyone happy) Jen > Auiler > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cross, Tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 1:12 PM > Subject: RE: OT - Domino/Notes Versus Exchange > > > > Mood Stamps! Oh me oh my, Mood Stamps! > > > > -Richard Simmons > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Lefkovics, William [ <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 2:07 PM > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: OT - Domino/Notes Versus Exchange > > > > > > Excellent <IBM> and <is> thorough <the> reply, <best!> Patrick! > > > > >>Now, when I am forced to use the Outlook client, I am feel like > something > > is missing. > > > > Please elaborate. Given that Outlook is the most widely used email > > client in the world, what do you feel is missing? > > > > William > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Pat Smallwood [ <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 11:08 AM > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: OT - Domino/Notes Versus Exchange > > > > > > <ignore senders email address/client> > > I am a Notes user, and initially couldn't stand the Client. You are > > correct, not initially intuitive etc...(trust me, I was pretty excited > > when I first heard that you can use the Outlook client with the a > > Notes Server). However, once you become familiar with the > > functionality and interface, it is actually pretty nice. No, it does > > not have the trademark MS'ified GUI (go figure!!) For me, I think the > > hard part of accepting Notes was that I KNEW Outlook, and didn't want > > to take time to learn the new client. Dont get me wrong, I do not > > dislike Outlook/Exchange (that's how I make a living). > > > > I am on Notes R5. I dont know what version you were primarily > > hammering, but I actually like it. Now, when I am forced to use the > > Outlook client, I am feel like something is missing. My mail server > > has only been down once in two years (that I am aware of) and I have > > never had to call a help desk on it. (yes, of Course Exchange can also > > run as long if properly admin'd-maybe even if not!!). I am an Exchange > > Admin, and only USE Notes, so I am not aware of the technical issues > > personally. > > > > As far as Database functionality, I love that part of Notes now. I > > guess you could get the same features elsewhere, although I am not > > sure they would integrate as smoothly. An observation I have made over > > that past couple years- it seems that a majority of people who demand > > more than simple messaging are Notes users. I probably (off record) > > wouldn't recommend Notes to your basic email user (simple text > > messages) who already has issues understanding Outlook. The learning > > curve may not be worth it for some end users. That said, I dont know > > if I could do as much with out Notes. > > List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
