You still didn't mention whether the drive you added has "at least" 60gb of
free space.  Assuming it does, what is stopping you from simply running the
Performance optimizer to move the databases off the current drive, then
expand the drive, then move them back by running Optimizer again?  You do
realize that running the defrag will likely take 12+ hours just by itself,
during which time your server will be offline?

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems


-----Original Message-----
From: James Chris L [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 2:31 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: ESEUTIL DEFRAGS LIMITATIONs

We have another drive we have added for the defrag and we need to defrag the
database because there is only 300mb of free space on the database drive and
to expand the disk, we need to move the database of the disk and expand them
move it back. 

 -----Original Message-----
From:   Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Thursday, January 24, 2002 12:41 PM
To:     MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:        RE: ESEUTIL DEFRAGS LIMITATIONs

Here is a snippet from Q272234 that tells you about offline defragmentation.

        "Generally, however, avoid offline defragmentation because it is an
expensive procedure. When offline defragmentation runs, it creates a new
database file and then copies all the data in the old file to the new file,
which can take a long time. On average, it takes about one hour to
defragment 5 to 10 GB of disk space. Also, you need enough free space for
the offline defragmentation process to hold the new file. As a general rule,
you should have 100 percent more free space than the amount you are
defragmenting."

        So the question then begs whether you have the free space to even
perform the defrag.  May I also ask why you feel that it is so completely
necessary to defragment your database?  Is there a problem with the server?
Is it not running smoothly?  Are you anticipating that it will never grow
larger?  Basically, all you are doing with eseutil is reclaiming the white
space.  That is it.  White space simply explained is just space in the
database that is not currently being used, but will be used as the database
grows.  Since the space has already been reserved, your server does not have
to work nearly as hard to procure more space and increase the size of the
database.

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems


-----Original Message-----
From: James Chris L [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 1:27 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: ESEUTIL DEFRAGS LIMITATIONs

We have an on going problem in our company,  our Exchange database exceed
60gb on some of our servers.  One of these databases has 13gb of free space
in it.  We have tried to defrag this database multiple times and have failed
to complete in the time window every time.  

Does anyone know what if any the limitations of the ESEUTIL are for Exchange
5.5?
Has anyone ever done this before?
Is there any other third party tools that can be used to defrag our
database?
What would you recommend?

Chris


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