I have to admit to seeing some irony in that, but to be honest, even Sunbelt ended up on one of these lists, and had a hell of a time getting it corrected. Anti spam is good, playing God in the name of anti spam is very very bad. The old ORBS contacted me a few years ago, and I admit to having Exchange 5.5 incorrectly configured. Their email prompted me to correct this, and that is doing the internet a service. Arbitrarily blacklisting someone, or making unauthorised connections to their system seem to me to be the actions of someone who needs to feel a sensation of power, while hiding under the guise of doing a good service.
While I really don't like getting 17 emails a day about Girls and horses, I am confused about the whole spam thing: reason? Check your mail at home every day. People pay local newspapers, or kids to spread the paper equivalent around daily, which to me is worse, because while internet spam chews up bandwidth, paper spam kills trees, and fills up garbage dumps with the plastic some of it is wrapped in. No one seems to be up in arms over that. (Don't get me wrong, I don't like receiving spam either, but am taking a slightly different perspective on things) At the end of the day, if my bandwidth is getting choked I can still breath :-) I don't know that email spam will ever go away, the practice of getting information on people, and selling the list dates back well before world wide email. Just remember that before you fill in a free draw for a vacation! -----Original Message----- From: Scot Parsons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: March 21, 2002 3:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: ORBZ shutting down. I wish they put as much energy into catching the spammers as they do bothering us. -----Original Message----- From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 1:40 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: ORBZ shutting down. And for those of us who pretty much dislike them, Yeah! -----Original Message----- From: Ed Santiago [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 11:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: ORBZ shutting down. For those that have been doing relay testing with ORBZ. Here is some sad news. From: ORBZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 03:20:25 +0000 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ORBZ-Secondary] Shutdown >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Mar 20 12:01:39 2002 User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i Here's the email that those of you with forward sight have been fearing since the inception of ORBZ. As of this moment, ORBZ is shutting down. DNS zones are going to stop resolving, the website will disappear and mail will stop working (so furthur discussion on this list probably won't work -- use NANAE). I dont want to disappear in silence like ORBS, so I'll try for as much description as possible without compromising my own position. I received an official court notice this afternoon to turn over all information relation to ORBZ accounts. This came from the 10th Judicial District court of the State of Michigan. It appears that ORBZ may be facing criminal charges for denial of service relating to the Lotus Domino issue. I was happy to try to weather any civil issues that may have come up, and I was committed to seeing it through. However, the threat of jail time is too much; I don't believe in this fight quite that much. Thank you all for all your support. I sincerely hope that someone with the goal of carrying on the mission of ORBZ pops up in another country with a less foreboding legal system. Anyone who has copies of the current zones may do with them what they wish. For those of you stuck without good spam filtering, please consider ORDB and SpamCop; they both provide excellent free solutions. Ian Gulliver ORBZ List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.338 / Virus Database: 189 - Release Date: 3/14/2002 List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
