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Bravo! Great story! And you did the
censors good so they would pass the mighty filter
-----Original Message-----
From: Ely, Don
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Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 11:56
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To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: backup mailboxes with
Backup Exec
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From: Preston Jeffares
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Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 3:33 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: backup mailboxes with
Backup Exec
I was working for the corporate
offices of a large men's clothing retail chain. There was one buyer who
was particularly high-strung and loved nothing more than to blame me and the
computers for everything and anything that went wrong. I'm a 23 year old
head of IT... only reporting to the VP. This buyers comes pounding on my
office door screaming... I refuse to open the door until he stops
screaming. I open the door and he starts yelling again and it is
explained to me that he accidently hit the prompt to permanently delete deleted
items. (I had scriptlogic set to prompt users on Friday to empty deleted
items) I am confused on why he's upset... so you deleted your trash
folder... this infuriates him even more... "I STORE ALL THE MAILS I WANT
TO KEEP THERE..." Now I'm angry because I'm being yelled at for
someone elses stupidity. So I grab a folder of reciepts on his desk and
chuck it into his recycling trash can. At this point he's about to hit
me... looking back on it... being in a wheelchair prolly saved my ass.
Upon watching me throw important documents of his in the trash he says
"WHAT IN THE F**K ARE YOU DOING?" My VP had walked over at this
point hearing all the yelling across the office... I looked at him and smiled
and said "I'm putting everything in perspective... don't want your
important sh*t lost... don't throw it in the f*cking garbage."
I could hear my VP
laughing as he walked back to his office. *sighs* Oh the days of being
invincible.
-----Original
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From: William Lefkovics
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Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 3:01 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: backup mailboxes with
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Do they use the trash can
beside their desks to store important documents?
-----Original
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From: Nickolaos Fotopoulos
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Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 11:19
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To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: backup mailboxes with
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Sounds right to me...with
the exception of a few accidental email deletions, people should know that when
Outlook says "Permanent" that they should expect it to be
permanent. I have run into several user that use the Deleted Items folder
(are you sitting down) to store important emails that they want to keep.
-----Original
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From: Jay Ploughe
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Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 2:24 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: backup mailboxes with
Backup Exec
I have been watching this
thread seeing the all the "Avoid BLB....restore the IS and do
Exmerge" comments with interest.
I do use Deleted Item
Retention (10 days) and I do perform a full backup of the stores for
disaster recovery.
I also do BLB for 3
reasons: 1. Management says I have to, 2. Some of my users have discovered the
Deleted Items Recovery feature (and deleted them there too) and 3. It would
take longer to restore the IS's from tape than it would to just restore
it directly from the BLB tape. I would rather spent 5-10
minutes restoring an email or folder from my nightly backups (if it
exceeds the 10 day retention time) than spending hours setting up another
server, restoring the IS and doing an Exmerge. If for some reason it
can't be restored, then I tell the user "so sad, too bad...not recoverable".
I don't consider recovering deleted emails a disaster so why should I have
to perform a disaster recovery just to get email back?.
Just my 2 cents
worth. <Flame away - its a little cool in here anyway! >
Jay Ploughe
Network Administrator
Kiwanis International
www.kiwanis.org
"Serving
the Children of the World"
-----Original
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From: Preston Jeffares
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Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 11:47
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: backup mailboxes with
Backup Exec
Ick... man please just
avoid the BLB. You'd be better off just doing what william said and
keeping around an old trash machine to do full restores to. It will give
you DR practice anyway. All you do is recover the full store... the
exmerge the box off to a pst and reimport back into the production box.
-----Original
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From: Leone, Michael
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Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 12:45
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Subject: RE: backup mailboxes with
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>Honestly... I would tell the users about it.
Some of them can try and be extra smart and then go in to the Recover Deleted
>Items box and delete their mail there too... and
still complain about wanting it back. My suggestion... keep it to
yourself
>and then you get to play "hero"
occasionally.
I can live with that. :-)
I may keep the BE option to backup the individual
mailboxes for a little while longer, anyway. Just in case. :-)
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