Is this list where I go to get Computer Associates support? > -----Original Message----- > From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 3:09 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Compacting > > > That freak was the one holding you down while I beat you until you > understood. He's trolling for fresh fish out of boredom perhaps. > > Pay attention in class. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 3:13 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Compacting > > > Yes I know. > > It is a learning process!!! > > I have never stated that I know everything, unlike this FREAK > just did. > > Thanks again. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Schwartz, Jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 1:59 PM > Subject: RE: Compacting > > > Yeah, it took me 5 or 6 e-mail to beat that into YOUR head. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 2:58 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Compacting > > > O crap. Are you nutz? > > You are trying to defend running ESEUTIL AND BLBs?? > > Do you have a death wish? That has never been done successfully. Not > individually, nor collectively. > > All hard core Exchange Admins who have been doing this for > years have both > of those items on the black list. We have gone round and > round here for > months on both issues. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andy David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 1:50 PM > Subject: RE: Compacting > > > thats why I do BLB. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Balen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 2:40 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Compacting > > > > Again, defragmentation happens daily when ese runs. I am assuming this > person > means don't compact the store. Running eseutil can be a > dangerous thing. > Running > either of the utilities that will change the structure of the > store, can be > a > dangerous thing and should only be done in extreme measures > (like if the IS > wont > start and you don't have a decent-recent backup of the store, > or if you have > a > huge priv.edb file are running out of diskspace and know that > compacting > would > free up a lot of space an have cheap managers who wont spend > money on either > more disk space or another server to offload folks to). As > you will see, > many > folks in here are weary (with good reason) about running > eseutil against the > store. About the only util people tend to run is isinteg just > to check the > integrity of the store. Even if it needs to be fixed, most > folks will just > build > another server and move mailboxes off of the server with a > store that may > have a > lot of errors or is too big for its own good. Bottom line > again, is to only > use > eseutil as a last ditch effort or isinteg -fix if the store is not > accessible. > > FWIW - these are the reasons you keep impeccable backups of > your stores and > transaction logs - just like Wilford Brimley says check your > blood sugar and > check it often, exchange admins say check your backups and > check them daily. > Once you have a good base of backups, a couple weeks to a > month, you will > want > to test and document your disaster recovery methods 1) to > make sure it works > and > b) to get it down packed so you can do it in a minimal amount > of time. Also, > I > recommend never letting your stores (mostly the priv.edb) get > out of hand > (getting too big) because it becomes harder to manage it > (longer to back it > up, > longer to restore it, etc.) If it does get too big, either > implement strict > or > more strict mailbox storage policies or simply build another > exchange server > and > move users off of it - if it is e2k, of course, storage > groups are a god > send > for thing like this. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > at INTERNET > > Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 2:10 PM > To: Balen, Steve B - Raleigh, NC; > [EMAIL PROTECTED] at INTERNET > Subject: RE: Compacting > > > Never? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 2:07 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Compacting > > > DON'T DEFRAG!!! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Beckett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 12:33 PM > Subject: RE: Compacting > > > 2000, 5.5, all versions? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: William Lefkovics [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 1:33 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Compacting > > Has it been a month already? > > Since it is a bright relational database, it runs an online > maintenance > process nightly by default that defrags the contents of the > databases. > It takes care of itself. > > William > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 10:19 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: Compacting > > > Friends and astute members of the exchange list. Please forgive such > basic questions but I am new to exchange. (came from lotus notes) > Since > exchange is essentially a database, I would assume this database > gets > fragmented. Is there a tool that can be used to "unfragment"? > > > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > > > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > > > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------- > -- > The information contained in this email message is privileged and > confidential > information intended only for the use of the individual or > entity to whom it > is > addressed. 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