Yes, I'd do all of those things...at the same time. > -----Original Message----- > From: Ely, Don [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 5:11 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Compacting > > Damn it you guys! I leave for a couple of hours and you start preaching > about defrags and BLB's... > > Well I have a couple of questions since I are a beginner... > > Can I run Eseutil and my BLB process at the same time? What time should I > start this process? As soon as it is complete should I run ISINTEG? What > you you experts think? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 3:07 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Compacting > > > Here fishy fishy. > > Fresh fish. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 3:02 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Compacting > > > Ive been an eXch admin for almost 6 months now, so I think I know what I > am > doing. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 2:58 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Compacting > > > O crap. Are you nutz? > > You are trying to defend running ESEUTIL AND BLBs?? > > Do you have a death wish? That has never been done successfully. Not > individually, nor collectively. > > All hard core Exchange Admins who have been doing this for years have both > of those items on the black list. We have gone round and round here for > months on both issues. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andy David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 1:50 PM > Subject: RE: Compacting > > > thats why I do BLB. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Balen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 2:40 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Compacting > > > > Again, defragmentation happens daily when ese runs. I am assuming this > person means don't compact the store. Running eseutil can be a dangerous > thing. Running either of the utilities that will change the structure of > the > store, can be a dangerous thing and should only be done in extreme > measures > (like if the IS wont start and you don't have a decent-recent backup of > the > store, or if you have a huge priv.edb file are running out of diskspace > and > know that compacting would free up a lot of space an have cheap managers > who > wont spend money on either more disk space or another server to offload > folks to). As you will see, many folks in here are weary (with good > reason) > about running eseutil against the store. About the only util people tend > to > run is isinteg just to check the integrity of the store. Even if it needs > to > be fixed, most folks will just build another server and move mailboxes off > of the server with a store that may have a lot of errors or is too big for > its own good. Bottom line again, is to only use eseutil as a last ditch > effort or isinteg -fix if the store is not accessible. > > FWIW - these are the reasons you keep impeccable backups of your stores > and > transaction logs - just like Wilford Brimley says check your blood sugar > and > check it often, exchange admins say check your backups and check them > daily. > Once you have a good base of backups, a couple weeks to a month, you will > want to test and document your disaster recovery methods 1) to make sure > it > works and > b) to get it down packed so you can do it in a minimal amount of time. > Also, > I recommend never letting your stores (mostly the priv.edb) get out of > hand > (getting too big) because it becomes harder to manage it (longer to back > it > up, longer to restore it, etc.) If it does get too big, either implement > strict or more strict mailbox storage policies or simply build another > exchange server and move users off of it - if it is e2k, of course, > storage > groups are a god send for thing like this. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] at INTERNET > > Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 2:10 PM > To: Balen, Steve B - Raleigh, NC; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > at > INTERNET > Subject: RE: Compacting > > > Never? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 2:07 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Compacting > > > DON'T DEFRAG!!! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Beckett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 12:33 PM > Subject: RE: Compacting > > > 2000, 5.5, all versions? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: William Lefkovics [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 1:33 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Compacting > > Has it been a month already? > > Since it is a bright relational database, it runs an online maintenance > process nightly by default that defrags the contents of the databases. It > takes care of itself. > > William > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 10:19 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: Compacting > > > Friends and astute members of the exchange list. Please forgive such basic > questions but I am new to exchange. 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