Heck, here in the NYC metro area, I live in one of the few towns in my
county that has either DSL or cable. 
Verizon was supposed to have this area DSL saturated a few years ago...



-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Atherton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 8:24 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SATELLITE DSL WITH EXCHANGE SMTP?


Simi had 120,000 people, but spread out so only 35% max can get it (SBC).
Cable was Comcast and now is Adelphia - need I say more (No Cable Modems -
yet - been promised for 4 years).

Thousand oaks and Newbury Park have 160,000 people, but even more spread
out. Oxnard even more - over 200K people, and little penetration. Very many
farms, and businesses spread out, and telephone are centralized - so not
much DSL.

I work in Ventura, and we can't even get DSL there, because of location.

Pain in the Butttt.

-----Original Message-----
From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 5:01 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SATELLITE DSL WITH EXCHANGE SMTP?


DSL is spooty in Ventura county, CA??  You wouldn't think so....

-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Atherton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 19:45
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SATELLITE DSL WITH EXCHANGE SMTP?


That is why my suggestion to him was www.skypipeline.com
<http://www.skypipeline.com> . Not satellite, but earth-based direct
microwave, with min speeds of 256 K Both Ways - symmetrical Fractional
T-1 connectivity, with business and home accounts - with different
policies and Usage Uptime commitments. Home accounts are cheaper with
best effort - similar to Cable or home dsl, and business accounts priced
more, with better support and uptime commitments.
 
You pay for what you want. Speeds are available the same with both
styles of accounts, but responsiveness to problems aren't.
 
Also, this is really of benefit when you are outside of DSL range, cause
it is a little more costly.
 
Where he is in Ventura county, CA (same as me) dsl is spotty.
 
Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Reid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 11:03 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SATELLITE DSL WITH EXCHANGE SMTP?



What about the upload speed. If you are running an exchange server on
the site, and you are sending the data out over satellite, you are going
to have a 60KB upload rate or something like that aren't you? That is
what stopped us from setting up an exchange server on a remote site.

 

Michael

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Politis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: July 13, 2002 2:11 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SATELLITE DSL WITH EXCHANGE SMTP?

 

70ms latency is excellent.  In fact it's so good, I don't belive there's
any way satellite can provide this kind of latency. I've used several
satellite rigs, and none come in under 500ms latency.  Either their
smoking crack, or 70 ms is some BS their makreting department came up
with that refers to internal latencies on their wired network, and
doesn't represent what customer's see over their true satellite links.
You can't pump data into near earch orbit, and back that fast; the
distances are far enough that the speed of an electron becomes an issue.

 

That being said, most web protocols SMTP, FTP, HTTP, etc.  were initial
designed for slow dial up networks with high latency.  And will run fine
over the 500+ ms latencies of a satellite network.  Issues would arise
with other protols such as Citrix ICA, MS RDP or SNA.  If your users
want to just browse the web, and POP mail they should be fine.

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 11:51 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SATELLITE DSL WITH EXCHANGE SMTP?

Thanks.  Yes, we were talking about "high speed connection".  The issue
of latency seems to be acceptable at certain levels... One such
measurement, 70ms, comes from a company called www.SkyPipeline.com
<http://www.skypipeline.com/> .  If latency is an *ENEMY* to good line
speed what will it mean to have 70ms using "interactive applications"
specifically remote access software?

 

"...guaranteed to have an average round trip packet transit time within
SkyPipeline's Broadband Wireless Network over a calendar month of 70ms
or less. The average network latency is measured as the average of
15-minute samples taken throughout the month"

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Benjamin Zachary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 9:31 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SATELLITE DSL WITH EXCHANGE SMTP?

 

As long as you get static ip it should be okay. Others may complain
about the terminology you are using, since DSL is a connection method
and so is satellite so I'm presuming you are talking about satellite for
high speed connectivity. There will be latency but it shouldn't matter
too much

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 6:33 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: SATELLITE DSL WITH EXCHANGE SMTP?

We are in Ventura County, CA and just found out from the ISP that slots
on the D-SLAM may not be available for our IDSL connection.  How well
does satellite DSL weigh in with SMTP mail on an Exchange Server
environment? Thanks. Michael 

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