> -----Original Message----- > From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > For some reason our list server got listed in spamcop.
I run a Lyris server, too. Twice in the past year and a half it's been listed for 24 hours in a UK-based blacklist. The reason has been either the "please confirm that you're a human who really does want to subscribe" message or the "sorry, you aren't a member of the list so you can't post to it" message. A couple of the forged addresses being used by spammers are -- surprise, surprise -- spamtrap addresses. So when Lyris does its "we don't put you on unless you confirm and we don't let lists be sent to by non-members" thing, every once in a while the resulting message goes to a spamtrap address. Examining the message would show that it's not spam (although obviously it's unsolicited). But a couple of the blacklist outfits figure that anything at all that's unsolicited and to a spamtrap address is reason to blacklist. They say that receipt is proof that a list is NOT opt-in, because there's not even an existing person at that address who ever could opt in. Granted, receiving a substantive message to such an address would be proof. But receiving a "please confirm" message is the opposite. Still, I haven't bothered arguing with the two times it happened to our server, because the blacklist was in the UK, so few of our members were likely to use it. If it starts happening too often, maybe it'll become worth arguing. Don't know if that's what happened here, but it's possible. Michael Trittipo Minnesota State Bar Association [EMAIL PROTECTED] (612) 278-6339 direct dial (612) 333-1183 receptionist ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~
