Ok, but would now since I have no logfiles be the time to do that? Once I
get everything up I suppose I could just as easily shutdown and dismount the
store and create new SGs

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 8:00 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: eseutil /p

 

You can’t ignore the fact that you are operating in
multiple-databases-per-SG mode.

 

In that case, the fact that an individual DB is “clean shutdown” is pretty
much irrelevant. You need to have all DBs in that SG in clean shutdown.

 

Once you are in one-DB-per-SG (or at Exchange 2010 which requires that),
life is much easier.

 

You can’t (without breaking stuff) bifurcate log files when you have
multiple-DBs-per-SG.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Lists - Level5 [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 7:57 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: eseutil /p

 

Yes, I have been arguing with them that their DB’s need to be smaller and to
implement archiving. I hate to be the I told you so and use these as
‘lessons’ but hopefully the urgency will be understood now. 

 

I agree, I will split these up as soon as this is done. There really wasn’t
a lot of thought put into this structure when they started with 40 users and
now are nearing 800 employees. 

 

Thanks for the tip MBS

 

Just curious once I have the edb in clean shutdown and showing no logfiles
needed or requested whats the chance they come online? I know there will be
some data loss im just hoping its fairly contained to the actual problem
which was maybe 50-100 emails when the db went offline.

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 7:25 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: eseutil /p

 

At this point – I think you need to wait it out.

 

You see now why it is best to have one DB per SG.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Lists - Level5 [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 7:21 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: eseutil /p

 

So long story, as short as possible …

 

I have exchange 2007 running on an EQL san for the datastores and logs. We
have 2 Stores with 2 DBs in each and 1 PF. The EQL san didn’t auto-resize
and with about 150GB left it went offline with an error dropping the
connection. We manually expanded the drive and the system came back with
600GB available. 

 

Now the hard part, the BU didn’t run over the weekend and was rescheduled to
run Monday evening (about 6 hours before this occurred). Apparently the past
few days was a vss snapshot error, so Im stuck trying to revive what I have
before rolling back 2 weeks.

 

I have corrupted log files and 2 db’s in the second storage group are dirty
shutdown. When I mount them I get errors that logfiles are corrupt and tried
rolling those back and then ended up with invalid timestamps on the logs.

 

We decided to get it to clean by running eseutil /p and after having ½ the
company down for a 1.5 days one of the db’s is done , and the other is still
going (dbs are 120gb and 310gb). I wanted to just mount the finished db one
time and then run the isinteg –fix but when I do it hangs for a minute and
then errors that I cannot start due to the other database is in use (event
logs showed its trying to touch the other DB still in repair and errors
out).

 

Now the question is we would like to get this online , its dismounted would
it hurt anything to drop it from storage group 2, and re-mount it in storage
group 1 for the sake of getting it back online or could that cause more
grief than its worth and just wait it out …

 

Thanks

 

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