Stupid fingers.  Should have said:

But a good instructor with real world experience would DISCUSS lagged stuff in 
class...

Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com<http://www.carlwebster.com/>


From: Webster [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 6:35 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup of Exchange 2010

But a good instructor with real world experience would lagged stuff in class 
but should explain what is done in the real world.  But that is just me.  I 
prefer to rely heavily on real world experiences when I teach plus I also rely 
on MBS setting me straight when I have questions on the material contained in 
the MOCs.


Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com<http://www.carlwebster.com/>


From: Jonathan Link 
[mailto:[email protected]]<mailto:[mailto:[email protected]]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 5:04 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Backup of Exchange 2010

Well it is pushed in the MS curricula. Of course I'm talking out if my hat.
Which is why I bow to your superior experience!

On Wednesday, September 28, 2011, Michael B. Smith 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> I'm not going to say it's impossible - it isn't.
>
>
>
> I've only done it in the lab. And it sucks. It's difficult and it requires a 
> GOOD understanding of exactly how eseutil works - which most people do not 
> have - and using DatabaseOnly with various PowerShell cmdlets - which tends 
> to confuse lots of people.
>
>
>
> MSIT used lagged copies in their production environment only until 
> SingleItemRecovery was available in their E14 builds. They no longer do so.
>
>
>
> I'm not saying "yes" and I'm not saying "no" - but it's not a heavily used 
> feature.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
>
>
> From: Jonathan Link 
> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 5:56 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Backup of Exchange 2010
>
>
>
> I wouldn't want to. And I bow to your experience.
>
> On Wednesday, September 28, 2011, Michael B. Smith 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> Why on earth would you want to lag a DB? Have you ever tried recovering from 
>> a lagged DB?
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael B. Smith
>>
>> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>>
>> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Jonathan Link 
>> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 5:13 PM
>> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>> Subject: Re: Backup of Exchange 2010
>>
>>
>>
>> Or can you have dbs offsite?  And then can you lag those dbs?
>>
>>
>>
>> How frequent are those "oops, where'd that message go?" issues?  And then, 
>> on average, how far back do you have to go?
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 4:55 PM, Steve Ens 
>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>> Do you have your databases at different sites?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Joseph Heaton 
>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>> If I have my mailbox servers setup in a DAG, is the only reason to backup to 
>> disk/tape to cover the "oops, where'd that message go?" issues?
>>
>> If you do backup to disk/tape, what type of retention do you have?  And, 
>> yes, I know the retention issue is extremely subjective, depending on legal 
>> requirements, etc.  Just curious.
>>
>>
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