My friends in the healthcare field says BYOD means Bring your own Disaster.

On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 2:27 PM, justino garcia <[email protected]>wrote:

>
> What if your a Good for enterprise SHOP and no EAS?
> Do you have two MDM to support Z10, or can you use Good for Android?
> Z10 support androids apps?
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Adm <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Does Zenprise (now Citrix) support the BB10? Or Windows OS phones?
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Guyer, Don <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Exactly!...****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> So, now the question will be do we connect them to the BES server or run
>>> them just using EAS? We’ve got the EAS policies for iDevices and Droids, so
>>> it wouldn’t be hard to massage them to fit BBs. We’re also using Zenprise.
>>> ****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Everyone into the pool!****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> : )****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> With some of the heavy users, I can see the data part of it, mentioned
>>> by Simon, to be a possible factor.****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Regards,****
>>>
>>> * *
>>>
>>> *Don Guyer**
>>> **Catholic Health East - Information Technology*****
>>>
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>>>
>>> *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> *Sent:* Monday, April 01, 2013 1:38 PM
>>>
>>> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>>> *Subject:* RE: Exchange 2013 + BES 10****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Byod at its best )))****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *From:* Guyer, Don [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> *Sent:* Monday, April 1, 2013 1:31 PM
>>> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>>> *Subject:* RE: Exchange 2013 + BES 10****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> I just setup a Z10, using straight EAS, as a test. If you are tying down
>>> EAS using the device’s S/N (similar to a Droid or iDevice) it uses an ID
>>> that is a combination of “BB” and the device PIN.****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> “BB123AB1A1”, for example.****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> A coworker of mine is standing up a BES 10 server in the next week or
>>> two (Exch2k7 shop). Tickets are rolling in for people who went out and
>>> bought Z10s already, without checking with us for compatibility.****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Regards,****
>>>
>>> * *
>>>
>>> *Don Guyer**
>>> **Catholic Health East - Information Technology*****
>>>
>>> Enterprise Directory & Messaging Services
>>> 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa  19073****
>>>
>>> email: *[email protected]*****
>>>
>>> Office:  610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440****
>>>
>>> *For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call
>>> the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839.*
>>>
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>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *From:* Simon Butler [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>]
>>> *Sent:* Monday, April 01, 2013 12:27 PM
>>> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>>> *Subject:* RE: Exchange 2013 + BES 10****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Blackberry and Exchange 2013 is a mess.****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> As things stand, today (could all change tomorrow)…****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> You can use BES 10 with Exchange 2013 without any issues because it uses
>>> ActiveSync for the final connection to Exchange. ****
>>>
>>> You can also use BES 10 with Exchange 2010, using the MAPI CDO just as
>>> you can with BES 5.x. ****
>>>
>>> You can use the same account as BES 5 with your BES 10, but you cannot
>>> install BES 10 on the same server as BES 5.x****
>>>
>>> For BES 5 to Exchange 2013, you need the latest service pack (5.0.4)
>>> plus MR2 (or later) and the latest MAPI CDO.
>>> Anyone doing anything with MAPI CDO should monitor this blog:
>>> http://blogs.msdn.com/b/stephen_griffin/archive/2013/02/28/exchange-2013-compatible-mapicdo.aspx
>>> ****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> As an aside, BES 10 is actually three bits:****
>>>
>>> BDS (Blackberry Device Service) – this is for Blackberry 10 devices only
>>> and is effectively BES 6.2****
>>>
>>> UDS (Universal Device Service) – this is for Android (with Touchdown)
>>> and iPhone. ****
>>>
>>> BMC (Blackberry Management Console) – this provides a simple user
>>> interface which gives you a single interface for the two above and a BES 5
>>> installation (including BES Express). The idea is that day to day you can
>>> use the management console. ****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> BES 10 has effectively become just a MDM, as you can connect a BES 10
>>> device straight to Exchange using ActiveSync. There is also no need for a
>>> special data plan, as it uses regular data, but that means your data use
>>> will go up because it doesn’t go through the Blackberry network which
>>> compresses the data. It is a very good MDM though and Balance looks like a
>>> winner. ****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> It isn’t a 10 minute install for all the parts either, you need to do it
>>> in the order the documentation says. However if you aren’t going to add
>>> iPhones and Android to it, then just install BDM, which is just as easy as
>>> BES 5. ****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> On the subject of the data plan – that depends on your provider. I have
>>> heard some are just allowing it, others require additional subscriptions. I
>>> think my three rules of Microsoft licencing rule might work here – ask
>>> three times, get four different answers, get the response in writing and
>>> the most expensive solution will be the correct one. ****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Of course over here in the UK we have had Blackberry 10 for a little
>>> longer than the US, so some of this is “old” news. ****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Hope this helps,****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Simon. ****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> --
>>> Simon Butler
>>> MVP: Exchange, MCSE
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>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
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>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *From:* Michael B. Smith 
>>> [mailto:[email protected]<[email protected]>]
>>>
>>> *Sent:* 01 April 2013 16:06
>>> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>>> *Subject:* RE: Exchange 2013 + BES 10****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Talk about bleeding edge…****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *From:* justino garcia 
>>> [mailto:[email protected]<[email protected]>]
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, April 1, 2013 10:49 AM
>>> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>>> *Subject:* Exchange 2013 + BES 10****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> HI,****
>>>
>>> Anyone running Exchange 2013  and  Bes 10 yet.
>>> ****
>>>
>>> Any issues I need to be aware of?****
>>>
>>> --
>>> Justin
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