On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 2:46 AM, Wulf C. Krueger <philant...@exherbo.org> wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hello Saleem et al, > > On 28.02.2015 19:22, Saleem Abdulrasool wrote: > > I think that its about time that we consider crossing over to > > cross. > > Yes! > > > In preparation for this migration, I would like to gather the set > > of things that we must do before we actually engage in merging the > > necessary changes. > > We have the todo list at http://www.exherbo.org/docs/multiarch.html. > Today, I've added the following items: > > Pre-migration: > * Write proper developer docs, like e. g. > http://www.exherbo.org/docs/multibuild.html > > I consider this to be *very* important (and I'm aware you'll likely > disagree about needing this pre-migration). > I've seen what happens if things just get added (e. g. the newish > python stuff) and docs are promised "soon after" - it never happens > and that's truly detrimental to the quality in Exherbo and to at least > my own motivation. (grep for WULF_IS_ANGRY in ::python or look > directly at dev-python/apsw's exheres.) > > So I'm *very* *very* keen on getting proper docs. And, of course, I'm > willing to help but at the moment I don't even know where to start. > Already taken care of. We can kill at least one item on the list :-D. > * Changing the paths in /etc/env.d/00basic and /etc/profile needs to > be done in sys-apps/skeleton-filesystem-layout > This should be straightforward enough, I think > * sys-apps/skeleton-filesystem-layout can't currently be > (re-)installed in cross, e. g. edo ln -sfn "${LIBDIR}" "${ROOT}${x}" > Yes, this is more interesting. I think moben had worked out a way to make this work. > * Get https://galileo.mailstation.de/gerrit/#/c/115 merged into > wip/cross-compiling > * Fix Paludis' tests (stripper) in wip/cross-compiling > Yes, the cross-stripper is probably the next biggest thing remaining. > * Merge wip/cross-compiling into Paludis' master > > Well, these points should be obvious. :-) > > * Prepare a new Paludis release > > Telling people to use scm and downgrade later is annoying. Releases > are relatively cheap so this should be done after everything else > Paludis-related is done (bugfixes not withstanding) but pre-migration. > > * Figure out what to do about the remaining stuff in several > (deprecated/obsolete) directories: > > ls -l /bin /sbin /lib /lib64 /usr/bin/ /usr/lib /usr/lib64 /usr/sbin > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 5 Feb 28 08:03 /lib -> lib64 > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 5 Feb 28 08:03 /usr/lib -> lib64 > > As I see it, we can just get rid of these two. > No strong opinion on this. > /bin: > total 1248 > - -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1029496 Mar 2 22:19 bash > - -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 32328 Mar 2 20:37 kill > - -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 31912 Mar 2 23:20 pwd > - -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 40072 Mar 2 23:20 readlink > - -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 60712 Mar 2 23:20 rm > - -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 70664 Mar 2 18:01 sed > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 Mar 2 22:19 sh -> bash > > - -> /usr/${CHOST}/bin ??? > Yes, /bin should be a symlink to /usr/${CHOST}/bin. > /lib64: > total 140 > - -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 140944 Mar 2 18:45 ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 > > - -> /lib (hardcoded in the Linux kernel, IIRC,right?) > IIRC, this is something that can be configured. I assume you meant for the modules. However, the alternative is pretty nice too: /lib symlinked to /usr/${CHOST}/lib > /sbin: > total 864 > - -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 882840 Mar 2 18:45 ldconfig > > - -> /usr/${CHOST}/bin (yes, bin) > Yeah. > /usr/bin/: > total 72 > - -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 27880 Mar 2 23:20 env > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 29 Mar 2 23:21 m4 -> > ../x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/bin/m4 > - -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 40072 Mar 2 23:20 readlink > > - -> /usr/${CHOST}/bin ??? > Exactly. > /usr/lib64: > total 0 > drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 6 Mar 2 23:41 debug > > Will be solved by the pending Paludis patch. > > /usr/lib64/locale/locale-archive <--- can simply be nuked. > I think we should update the migration guide on this point. > /usr/sbin: > total 0 > > Nuke it. > You're getting the point. > We should get completely rid of the sbin/bin split. Let's just use bin > and be done with it. The split is archaic nonsense that should have > been abolished at least a decade ago. > > The above directory stuff needs to be done before the migration in > order to avoid later messy chaos. > Thats certainly possible. However, that results in two rebuilds of */*::/. > > Post-migration: > > * Implement multiple cross compilation hosts/targets: > > Details are in the document. > > > > Furthermore, we now have several places we're gathering stuff at - > this very mailinglist, the bugtracker and our IRC logs. :-) > > Since the remaining issues are mostly well-defined tasks, I'd like to > suggest using our Bugzilla to track everything. > Sure. Thanks for volunteering to create the bugs to track the items ;-). > E. g. filing a tracker bug for The Great Merge (Take Two) and several > blocking bugs for the different tasks themselves. I'll gladly do that > if we can agree on handling things like this. > > What do you say? > Let's get the show on the road! > - -- > Best regards, Wulf > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2 > > iEYEARECAAYFAlT1kRQACgkQnuVXRcSi+5omhgCdGJ+4QEMyxV7mHpq4be2Zegpq > jysAnRPthIvxirXJDeHXZn/nlrLOPU/L > =VC0G > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > -- Saleem Abdulrasool compnerd (at) compnerd (dot) org
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