Renaud Allard wrote: > On 2/9/09 6:04 PM, Nigel Metheringham wrote: >> On 9 Feb 2009, at 16:51, Graeme Fowler wrote: >>> It strikes me that we are where we are because there's no one person >>> driving development forward - either by being the "crazy ideas guy", >>> or >>> by actually doing the coding. Looking at Bugzilla is depressing :( >> >> >> Well yes. >> Unfortunately it needs some people who can put effort into things like >> coding and release management, and at this time I don't see those >> people around. >> >> There are a lot of people calling for other people to do things, >> or making bike shedding suggestions (ie changing to git - which is >> somewhat ineffective if there is no one producing changes to version). >> >> My position is that I do not do mail as any significant part of my >> work now, so cannot put any work time towards exim. I also do not >> have vast reserves of spare time to push to exim although I have >> been trying to at least keep infrastructure etc running. This also >> means I am falling further and further out of touch with the current >> state of the MTA art.... >> >> So maybe its time to push out a current snapshot as a release and >> close down.... >> >> [and yes, I realise that this is basically a call for other people to >> do things, although in my defence I am at least not asking for them to >> do things for me as I am effectively no longer an exim customer] >> > > Perhaps it could be a good idea to list which things are needed as a > list of "jobs" people could apply to. > Like you mail is now only a very small subset of my job now, but I still > have my personal servers, so I could do things if I knew what is to be > done. I guess assigning people to small specific tasks could be a > benefit and lower the load on your shoulders. Tasks just have to be > defined.
I only suggested git because I've got a little git mad lately with work development and it has made our small shared code bases infinitely easier to deal with. I wouldn't suggest that someone else port the current exim CMS to git just for my benefit :P With regards to exim, I too am no longer focused on email however I do still run my own mail servers plus a few customer ones. I have dreams of finishing up some additional code for customer servers and expanding that but it still remains a hobby at this point. While I don't have wads of time to throw at it, I certainly could do something to help keep exim alive. There are few things I have on my TODO list which involve new code or fixes for exim, it's just a matter of getting to them. The bug list is a little depressing but I live in hope that most of them are simply people not doing things correctly and putting in bug reports. I did have a quick look at a few when I had some spare time some months ago but they all ended up being unreproducible. Those few I looked at today were all half done conversations from 2+ years ago. Perhaps I could go through the bug list and terminate old useless bugs >:] -- The Exim Manual http://www.exim.org/docs.html http://docs.exim.org/current/ -- ## List details at http://lists.exim.org/mailman/listinfo/exim-dev Exim details at http://www.exim.org/ ##
