--On 20 June 2005 10:07:58 +0100 Peter Bowyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 20/06/05, Ian Eiloart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


--On 17 June 2005 15:40:20 -0400 "Greg A. Woods" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> [ On Friday, June 17, 2005 at 14:05:21 (+0100), Ian Eiloart wrote: ]
>> Subject: Re: [exim] a large number of domains fronted by Exim are
>> refusing bounces...
>>
>> Part of the problem here is that some people are using
>> rfc-ignoratant.org  as a whitelist. So getting a listing there may be
>> regarded as desirable!
>
> Hmmm....  I hadn't heard of that yet.  I don't quite see how this helps
> the ones who want to be listed either....

Getting listed makes it more likely that your email will be accepted - if
the sites using rfc-ignorant as a whitelist outweigh the sites using it
as a blacklist. So, if I'm a site refusing null senders, and my mail is
being refused because of that, then I can fix the problem (for some
sites) by listing myself at rfc-ignorant!

The term 'whitelist' is probably wrong here- various people are using
dsn.rfc-ignorant.org to cut down on sender callouts because such
callouts are a waste of time if you know in advance that the answer
won't be indicative.

I doubt if anyone then accepts the address without further testing..
which is what a more conventional ue of the term 'whitelist' would
imply.

Well, I was using the term to refer to accepting a message which would otherwise be rejected - I guess that is somewhat different. My objection to the practice is twofold: (1) it encourages people to misconfigure their servers (1) it negates the point of maintaining the rfc-ignorant list - which is surely there to discourage people from being non-compliant.

Peter

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Ian Eiloart
Servers Team
Sussex University ITS


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