On Mon, 27 Jun 2005, Marc Sherman wrote:

> I think Marc is referring to ISPs who require AUTH over ssmtp for their
> customers to submit mail.  The customer could change to a different ISP, but
> I'd imagine that changing MTAs is often easier.

Any ISP that *requires* their customers to use an obsolete protocol that 
was *never* a standard deserves to lost custom. Why aren't they 
supporting AUTH over smtp with STARTTLS? That is the standard, and has 
been for quite a few years now. I think all the major MTAs support it.

And no doubt clients in due course will stop supporting ssmtp. Or am I 
indulging in wishful thinking here? Probably. The server support for
ssmtp in Exim has expanded over time because the clients don't/won't 
change.

> Philip, would you accept a patch if someone else were to implement client side
> ssmtp?

I try always to look at patches because I think if someone has gone to 
the trouble of submitting one, they deserve at least the courtesy of my 
looking at what they have done. I don't always accept them.

Such a patch would need some careful specification. How would it
interact with hosts_avoid_tls, hosts_avoid_esmtp, and hosts_require_tls, 
for instance? A hacked-up patch is likely to ignore that issue.

I suppose I'd be being inconsistent not to accept a suitable patch. 
Grudgingly. :-)

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