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hi fred,

> | i'm fairly certain that's on purpose:
> 
> I figured so.
> 
> |     auth_advertise_hosts = ${if eq{$tls_cipher}{}{}{*}}

heh.  never quite certain at that hour ...

> | the idea being, unless a sending client is using TLS, don't advertise 
> anything ... hence
> | (eventually) 'enforcing' use of TLS, no?
> 
> Maybe, but I thought the main issue is with allowing plain text AUTH 
> mechanisms on an unencrypted connection, where they are vulnerable to 
> sniffing.  

yup. iiuc, that seems to be the most oft mentioned , 'main' issue ..

this is just my effort to feed my OCD daemons ...

i do not _think_ it's causing any problems _here_ tho, but it will get 
temporarily disabled
while figuring this out ...

> But that's not a problem with CRAM-MD5 mechanism, so it's also 
> reasonable to use server_advertise_condition in the plain text 
> authenticators to exclude them from the advertised list on 
> unencrypted connections, allowing AUTH CRAM-MD5 to be used.  That's 
> what I would do, anyway...

yup.  already there:

sasl_plain:
    driver                   = cyrus_sasl
    server_set_id            = $1
    public_name              = PLAIN
    server_service           = smtp
    server_hostname          = $primary_hostname
    server_realm             = $primary_hostname
    server_advertise_condition = ${if !eq\
                                   {}\
                                   {$tls_cipher}\
                                  }

cheers,

richard
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