Bill Hacker wrote:

But what is important here is also that Exim appears to NOT have
been set to act on the missing message-id  header in this case - nor
SpamAssassin.

This appears to be a case of the T-Bird MUA *on it's own* tagging as junk.

No, Bill, you've misunderstood the OP's scenario. Thunderbird and Outlook are the _sending_ MUAs. Exim is the _sending_ MTA. Hotmail.com is the recipient MTA and MUA. Hotmail is spam-binning the message sent by Outlook, and the OP can't figure out why.

So far, we've identified two very plausible differences between the two messaages which Hotmail could be acting on. We know that Hotmail uses Sender ID, which obeys SPF records. We also know that Hotmail uses a number of poorly documented spam filter heuristics, which could be noticing the missing Message-ID, so that's something the OP should fix as well.

IMNSHO, *this* case is just not an Exim issue.

I certainly agree with you on this one, with the small exception that the OP should definitely configure submission mode for his authenticated and local submissions, to solve the Message-ID problem.

- Marc

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