Statisticlly using DSPAM and then using SA with its results will make it alot worse that just using DSPAM

SA gets ~95% correct, but DSPAM can get more like 99.995% correct after a while.. Heurestuc Spam systems such as SA (yes HA bas bayesium stuff, but its crap in its accuracy)) need constant updateing with new rules. Stastistic systems such as DSPAM/Death2Spam etc just work.

I've love to see anything that will do better than DSPAM on the market (Free or Commercial) Any Anti-Spam people companies out there on this list want to compare it with DSPAM?

Thanks
Craig
http://www.spam.co.nz


----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy Spear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Marc Perkel'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]>
Cc: "Timothy Spear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 5:09 PM
Subject: RE: [exim] Who likes DSPAM?


Yes, SA is one of my SMTP time filters as part of an Exim ACL. It is set to
high enough to not have false positives, but blocks about 60% of the SPAM
which make it that far (I have other simple rule filters before SA; such as Distributed Check Sum). And just a note: I do not use the result of my other filters to train DSPAM. That tends to cause problems. As for the percentage,
yes DSPAM can do that, although I do not know how.

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Marc Perkel
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 10:06 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [exim] Who likes DSPAM?



Timothy Spear wrote:

There is no reason to place the result into SA. SA has its own bayes
implementation (which I think is not as good). I use SA (it is the final
check before acceptance) during the SMTP session without the bayes filter;
just rule based.

Tim




That's interesting. So SA is a prefilter to DSPAM? Do you reject email
at SMTP time with SA and then use DSPAM on what's left?

Spamprobe has a way of returning a one line score. I can:

cat message| spamprobe score

And I get a result with a number line 0.988234 so I can then process
that number. Can DSPAM do that? I'm also having problems compiling it
under Fedora Core 4 - can't find libmysqlclient - but I should go to
their support forum to solve that.

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