This is not a problem with exim - but others may notice it in their logs, and since I did not immediately twig to the cause, I thought I'd post it on this list to help others...

On a routine trawl through my logs, I noticed one of the sites regularly sent to is now greylisting - so far so good, exim doesn't care and beyond that it uses more of my resources for each message neither do I... but now for the funny bit - initially I thought the exim retry mechanism was broken (it isn't) because there was an (almost) instant retry on the temporary failed delivery... then I worked out why - take a look at this log below (email addresses altered to protect the guilty).

2006-01-28 19:02:06 1F2l24-0000rB-2E <= [EMAIL PROTECTED] H=([203.12.35.101]) [203.12.35.101] P=esmtp S=829 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Initial try fails because of grey listing
2006-01-28 19:02:13 1F2l24-0000rB-2E SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: host vscan2.hotkey.net.au [202.138.0.45]: 450 <[EMAIL PROTECTED] y.net.au>: Recipient address rejected: Policy Rejection: Hotkey Greylisting in progress ... Please try again after 2 minutes

A subsequent try, almost immediately - this is what made me think my retry config was wrong 2006-01-28 19:02:19 1F2l24-0000rB-2E SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: host vscan3.hotkey.net.au [202.138.0.46]: 450 <[EMAIL PROTECTED] y.net.au>: Recipient address rejected: Policy Rejection: Hotkey Greylisting in progress ... Please try again after 2 minutes

And another subsequent, try, again, almost immediately
2006-01-28 19:02:20 1F2l24-0000rB-2E == [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=dnslookup T=remote_smtp defer (-44): SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED] u>: host vscan1.hotkey.net.au [202.138.0.44]: 450 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Recipient address rejected: Policy Rejection: Hotkey Greylisting in progress ... Please try again af
ter 2 minutes

Finally it gets through...
2006-01-28 19:25:19 1F2l24-0000rB-2E => [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=dnslookup T=remote_smtp H=vscan1.hotkey.net.au [202.138.0.44]
2006-01-28 19:25:19 1F2l24-0000rB-2E Completed


Then of course I realised why - the network hotkey.net.au has three MX hosts at 202.138.0.45, 202.138.0.46 and 202.138.0.44.

This blew me away - what is the point of providing redundancy and scalability via MX, then those hosts each separately decide not to talk to you because of grey listing.

Perhaps people doing grey listing should only have the one MX?

I guess this is just another example of why grey listing is anti social - thankfully I'm not paying by data volume (many people in Australia still do) or I'd be more annoyed.

I sent a message to the postmaster of the site and he had not realised it worked that way (I was surprised he answered - very rare for anyone to answer a postmaster message these days) - all he has done is whitelist my domain in whatever software he uses - good for me, but still poor for everyone else.

Regards
Paul

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