On Wed, 8 Feb 2006, W B Hacker wrote: > > Check the long history behind 587, including draft-hutzler-spamops-00.
That's a very new draft and still somewhat controversial - though I expect most people here would agree with it. Port 587 is specified in RFC 2476 which is quite clear that the protocol is ESMTP, not SMTP-over-TLS. > The principle fly in the EHLO / STARTTLS ointment is the large number of > clients that may silently 'fall back' to un-encrypted, mode - or even stroll > over to port 25. > D'you suppose the mandated EHLO messages are visible in the MUA? > Let alone understandable to the average user?? Crappy MUA user interfaces are a problem, but that's an implementation issue not a standards issue. With any luck, draft-hutzler-spamops and the increasing deployment of RFC 2476 submission servers will encourage MUA user interfaces to improve. Tony. -- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://dotat.at/ ${sg{\N${sg{\ N\}{([^N]*)(.)(.)(.*)}{\$1\$3\$2\$1\$3\n\$2\$3\$4\$3\n\$3\$2\$4}}\ \N}{([^N]*)(.)(.)(.*)}{\$1\$3\$2\$1\$3\n\$2\$3\$4\$3\n\$3\$2\$4}} -- ## List details at http://www.exim.org/mailman/listinfo/exim-users ## Exim details at http://www.exim.org/ ## Please use the Wiki with this list - http://www.exim.org/eximwiki/
