--On 25 April 2006 05:59:16 -0700 Marc Perkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>
> Christian Schmidt wrote:
>> Hello Ian,
>>
>> Ian Eiloart, 24.04.2006 (d.m.y):
>>
>>
>>> I think RTFM is offensive even with references. Mainly because the 'F'
>>> doesn't stand for "fine". <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RTFM>. If you
>>> want  RTFM to unambiguously mean "Read the fine manual", then you have
>>> to type it  out.
>>>
>>
>> Or use RTM.
>>
>>
>>
> It's not the F part of the RTFM that's offensive.

It is offensive. Maybe not to you, but certainly to many.

> It's offensive when
> you're trying to ask a question and someone clutters the list with
> messages referencing the manual without providing any information that
> leads the questioner to the solution. If someone asks a question and
> someone else responds RTM or RTFM then that doesn't solve the problem.
> Such responses are 100% nonproductive.

That's also offensive. It is possible for two distinct assertions to be 
true at the same time, you know.


-- 
Ian Eiloart
IT Services, University of Sussex

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