Kjetil Torgrim Homme wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-05-15 at 22:39 +0800, W B Hacker wrote:
>> Kjetil Torgrim Homme wrote:
>>> I'm explaining that you can not reject bounces
>>> to multiple recipients *in general*. 
>> I don't see why not.
>>
>> MLM's having been covered,
> 
> yes, that was my example.
> 
>> how often does your server transmit the same message 
>> with an envelope-from or sender that lists *multiple* local addresses as the 
>> source?
> 
> source routing is a SHOULD NOT in RFC 2821, so this is not generally
> possible.

QED.

> 
>> So where would a *legitimate* bounce *get* the 'extra' senders to turn into 
>> multiple recipients on the bounce going back to you?
> 
> let me try with an example going into more detail:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] sends e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  this is a list
> run the old-skool way, in aliases it looks like:
> 
>         discuss: :include:/etc/lists/discuss
>         discuss-request: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>         owner-discuss: discuss-request
> 
> when two.example receives the message, it rewrites the envelope header
> to be [EMAIL PROTECTED]  one of the members of the list is
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  unfortunately, e-mail to charlie bounces, so
> two.example will send a bounce to the sender, which is now
> owner-discuss.  this expands to alice and bob, and is delivered as a
> single bounce to those two recipients from two.example to three.example.
> 

Kjetl,

OK 'example' it is. But I think we two are going 'round in increasingly 
off-topic circles by now.

'Old school' as you put it, alias expansion - MLM or other - can indeed screw 
several breeds of pooch - rewriting or not.

But this need not be a dominant factor w/r choosing how best to handle 
multiple-recipient bounces.

Better to fix the problematic aliasing than forego a useful problem-solver.

Anyway -  the thread started with DNS list lookup defer questions, so I'm going 
away now.....

Best,

Bill



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