On Thu, 7 Feb 2008, Phil Pennock wrote:
> On 2008-02-07 at 20:32 +0100, Benjamin Podszun wrote:
>> On Thu, 7 Feb 2008, Phil Pennock wrote:
>>> On 2008-02-07 at 19:29 +0100, Benjamin Podszun wrote:
>>>> Okay, two things make me nervous here:
>>>> 1) Why is the recipient in this test the current user? I know that I can
>>>> override/set that with -bfd/-bfl but I expected that exim takes these
>>>> values from the testmail - to test the rules?
>>>
>>> Only if you tell it to.  Otherwise the recipients are specified on the
>>> command-line.
>>
>> Would love to tell it to use the sample mail somehow. But since I'm
>> testing filter rules with a sample message, what's the message for if it
>> isn't used for the addresses? Headers only by default? Anything at all?
>> Sorry, I'm still lost here.
>
> Because you can filter based upon properties of the message.  Take a
> look at RFC 5228, which is the current specification for Sieve and which
> contains a number of examples.
>
> Eg, you can filter based on the size of the message, content of various
> headers (eg, Subject:), etc.  You're not limited to just the envelope.
>
> Eg, extracting from an old sieve file I have (used with Cyrus IMAP, not
> with Exim):
>
> ----------------------------8< cut here >8------------------------------
> if envelope :is "from" "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" {
>  if header :matches "Subject" ["CVS commit: home/pdp *", "CVS commit: 
> home/pdp/*"] {
>    fileinto "INBOX.cvs.mine"; stop;
>  }
>  fileinto "INBOX.cvs.misc"; stop;
> }
>
> if header :is "Content-Type" "text/html" {
>  fileinto "INBOX.html-only"; stop;
> }
>
> # implicit keep here
> ----------------------------8< cut here >8------------------------------
>
> So the envelope check uses the values faked up, but the Subject: check
> is using the content.

Okay, got that now. That basically means that I cannot easily test sieve 
rules based on the envelope address though, but I can do it manually 
somehow. Being naive about this stuff I imagined that I could take X 
sample messages from my inbox (which unfortunately differ in envelope to 
as well) and run them through the filter, checking if [EMAIL PROTECTED] ends up 
in another folder than [EMAIL PROTECTED] and it still works with putting 
list mails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in a third folder. Some kind of "fully 
automated" test, asking exim "What would happen if this message would 
come in right now" without additional info.
I understand your point though and will provide the info per mail, 
manually.
Thanks for answering right away.

Ben

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