On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 21:25 +0000, W B Hacker wrote: > By stupidly listing entire *countries* rfc-ignorant does do harm. More > harm than good.
Note: I'm not tub-thumping on anyone's behalf here, I am merely trying to proffer an objective POV... They publish their listing criteria. They operate according to their listing criteria. They de-list - guess what? - according to the obverse of their listing criteria. I've had much success with sorting out dumb problems causing listing on *.rfc-ignorant.org in a previous job, and would like to think that if I needed to again that I'd have the same. Anyone who chooses to reject messages based on a listing in *any* DNSBL where they do not understand, or totally disagree with, the listing choices (like, say, in the previous thread mentioning "tick this box to do X" control panels) is the one in the wrong, not the DNSBL operator. As it stands, .de (amongst others) have chosen to deviate - for their own specific reasons - from RFC3912 and have, therefore, been listed in whois.rfc-ignorant.org. Many other ccTLDs are the same, as well as many SLDs. I could argue (and have, with variant degrees of success over time) that there are several DNSBL operators out there with opaque listing policies. I have to say that, like it or not (and I frequently don't), rfc-ignorant.org isn't one of them. Their criteria are published, and if there's a breach of the criteria which is brought to their attention, they'll list something for that reason. Whosoever chooses to use their lists does so at their own risk, using their own knowledge. If that knowledge is thin on the ground, that is *not* the DNSBL operator's problem. Graeme -- ## List details at http://lists.exim.org/mailman/listinfo/exim-users ## Exim details at http://www.exim.org/ ## Please use the Wiki with this list - http://wiki.exim.org/
