Simon Johnstone wrote:
> On 27 May 2010, at 18:44, W B Hacker wrote:
> 
>> - set retry to fail - not at 3 or 4 days, but rather at one day or less. 
>> Even 15 
>> minutes may be appreciated by some business clients.
> 
> Interesting approach - I tend to drop delay_warning fairly low for similar 
> reasons.

It's the age we live in. smtp no longer seen as an alternative to TWIX/TELEX, 
or 
snail mail. Rather more phone, fax, SMS et al.

IOW - short interval is what today's 'consumer' logically expects / prefers.

WTH - snail mail and courier can be much faster than 3 or 4 day smtp 'fail', 
and 
most have online incremental tracking number updates.

As to why I drop the attempt not just report (periodicaly) with delay_warning 
.. 
it is 'probable' that the sender of yesterday's fail will want to send a 
DIFFERENT message today in the light of the fail.

Or send by another means AND NOT have the delayed message showing up as a 
complication later.

> 
>> The poor souls sitting behind dodgy or over-zealous greylisters, otherwise 
>> unreliable servers- noen of which you can 'fix' from your end - 
>> self-Identify to 
>> their correspondents, (and no others). Those now-alerted correspondents may 
>> then 
>> seek some other way to reach them if the situation warrants that.
>>
>> ...and there are not likely to be many retry hints at large, duplicated or 
>> otherwise.
> 
> What happens to the retry hint(s) created during the first delivery attempt?

Fair question - but one for others - I no longer have enough traffic that fails 
on first attempt to generate useful stats.

Bill

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