Thomas Hochstein wrote:
> W B Hacker schrieb:
> 
>>   first off, using a machine-generated bogus destination address such as;
>>
>> <[email protected]>
>>
>> .. is probably going to get you a rejection in ALL cases where the target 
>> does 
>> *recipient* verification.
> 
> Yes, that's the point.
> 
> See <http://www.exim.org/exim-html-4.40/doc/html/spec_38.html>:
> |  random: Before doing the normal callout check, Exim does a check for
> |  a “random” local part at the same domain. The local part is not
> |  really random – [...]
> |
> |  The idea here is to try to determine whether the remote host accepts
> |  all local parts without checking. If it does, there is no point in
> |  doing callouts for specific local parts. If the “random” check
> |  succeeds, the result is saved in a cache record, and used to force
> |  the current and subsequent callout checks to succeed without a
> |  connection being made, until the cache record expires. 
> 
> I'll have to (re-)evaluate that sometimes; a list of hosts that
> blindly accept all recipients would be better, of course.
> 
> Regards,
> -thh
> 


Well - yah... basically a test for far-end being an open-relay every time you 
send?

JM2CW, but any of the many open-relay RBL's or online tests cover that - and 
AFAIK, faster and 'cheaper' than a callout.

It isn't that a callout is always evil, always unwelcome, etc.

It's that a callout has too low of a probability of gaining a response that is 
both predictable and useful for the general case.

W/r vetting submission TO you, an rDNS test is a great deal more consistent and 
reliable - even if / especially if not used as an immediate hard-fail.

While you will almost certainly need a whitelist, covering the few 
correspondent 
who don't have their most basic DNS in order takes a much smaller list of 
exemptions than a list of those who do not support callouts.

YMMV,

Bill


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