Sorry about the long one but,
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 05:27:46AM -0700, Todd Lyons wrote: > On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 9:16 PM, The Doctor <[email protected]> wrote: > > ----- Forwarded message from Maureen Esch <[email protected]> > > ----- > > We'll assume that this is your customer? > > > DAVE > > > > It is still happening > > > > When is this going to be fixed!!!! > > > > And I am still getting unverified server message AND this From: > > from user's verified address [mailto:user@ns2] On Behalf > > Of Sernder's name. > > Explained below. > > > This is not GOOD - if you don't think you can resolve it in the next week - > > I am going to have to CHANGE providers NEXT WEEK > > This has gone on long enough - I CAN NOT continue with ALL these email > > issues > > It is not clear to me exactly what the issue is that she is > complaining about, though I suspect the AUTH error that is shown below > is tied to it. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mail Delivery Subsystem [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 10:50 AM > > To: rejected address > > Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Failure) > > > > Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently: > > > > virtual address > > "virtual address" is your user above that's complaining? > > > Technical details of permanent failure: > > Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the recipient > > domain. We recommend contacting the other email provider for further > > information about the cause of this error. The error that the other server > > returned was: 535 535 5.7.8 Error: authentication failed: generic failure > > (SMTP AUTH failed with the remote server) (state 8). > > Gmail is attempting to use Auth with your server. What do you see in > your logs about why auth is failing? What do you seen when you run > 'exim -bh ip.of.gmail.server' and act like you're gmail sending an > email to this address? > > > ----- Original message ----- > > > > what the heck is that address??? > >> *From:* sender verified address [mailto:sender verified address] *On > >> Behalf Of *user > > I have never seen this before...this is what the email address used to be > > ???? > > Gmail sticks to the RFC's very closely and adds "On Behalf Of" to > emails sent with an email address that they do not serve. Basically > there are three ways to use gmail servers: > 1. Use a gmail.com address. > 2. Assign your domain to be used with gmail. > 3. Use an email alias with gmail (your domain is served by someone > other than gmail servers). > > Case #1 is simple. Say I have the address [email protected]. It's > obvious that this is served by gmail. So when I send from gmail, the > >From header just has First Last <[email protected]> > > Case #2 is straightforward too. Say I have the domain example.com > signed up with gmail. I sign in as [email protected], and I can send > as [email protected] and the From header has First Last > <[email protected]>. > > Case #3 is more complicated. Say I ALSO have the domain example.org, > but I host it on my own mail server. I have [email protected] on my > mail server forwarded to [email protected], which gets delivered to > gmail servers. I add [email protected] as an alias sending address in > my [email protected] mailbox on gmail. > > Here's the complication. When I send an email as [email protected] > using gmail, gmail knows that it's not the primary service for this > domain. Therefore, it sends email from your alias, but it says "on > behalf of" a mailbox that it _does_ have complete authority for, the > one you signed in as, which is [email protected]. So you see From > First Last <[email protected]> On Behalf Of <[email protected]>. > > There are two ways to make this stop happening. > 1. Change the customer domain to be hosted by gmail. Probably not > your goal since that would take business away from you (but if you > truly value your customer, you should mention it as an option). > 2. Configure gmail to use smtp auth to send *@example.org (i.e. your > customer's domain) email through your mail server. > > See > http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/send-mail-from-another-address-without.html > > > On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:46 AM, User< > > virtual address> wrote: > >> Back at you > >> But notice it is still has the odd address - > >> > >> *From:* user-verified-address [mailto:user-verified-address] > >> *On Behalf Of *USer > >> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 30, 2011 9:55 AM > >> *To:* REcipient > >> *Subject:* test test test > >> > >> this is a test.. > >> sending email from gmail -using promoteyourbusiness as my return > >> address-is coming back undeliverable. > > *WHAT* is saying that her return address is coming back undeliverable. > What is she using as her return address? And who is she sending to > that says her return address is undeliverable. > > >> So I am sending from Mozilla to promoteyourbusiness > > ----- End forwarded message ----- > > > Do I need a rewrite rule? > > For what? > Somehow M$O, yes outlook from Offfice is saying Sendmaer: Send on behalf of virtual e-maill address. I with to rewrite sender so that it is picking up the information fron the From: line. > -- > Regards... Todd > "It is the nature of the human species to reject what is true but > unpleasant and to embrace what is obviously false but comforting." > "You might be a skeptic if you have pedantically argued the topic of > pedantry." > > -- > ## List details at http://lists.exim.org/mailman/listinfo/exim-users > ## Exim details at http://www.exim.org/ > ## Please use the Wiki with this list - http://wiki.exim.org/ -- Member - Liberal International This is [email protected] Ici [email protected] God, Queen and country! Never Satan President Republic! 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