OK, thanks a lot for your hints. I guess I will try to stick with smtp.free.fr now, and tackle any remaining issues, should they arrive.
-Andreas Mike Ridgers <[email protected]> writes: > Basically; > 1. Don't use Nemesis if you can help it (AFAIK it is used and > developed by Schlund & Partner - 1&1). I have had issues with 1&1's > Nemesis server before as Nemesis doesn't support Linux style > linebreaks (LF). So if the sent email message body contains them it > ignores the linebreaks and throws a "500 line limit exceeded" error as > the message body can then contain too many characters per line (if > it's a long email). Your issue may be related to this or you might > have hit another bug (or feature) with "Nemesis". > > 2. Yes, use the Postfix smarthost if you can. You can use any domain > you like as your sending address when sending through a smarthost - it > all depends on the smarthost provider's policy. Here in UK for > instance BT won't let you email through their smtp servers with a > domain not approved by them. So you need to call them & provide proof > of ID & that you own the domain in question & then they will let you > relay. It may be the same with smtp.free.fr - the only way to find out > is to contact them & ask. Most providers allow you to relay with any > email address as long as you are trusted in some way - i.e. you > authenticate first or you are on one of their trusted networks. > > Hope that helps. > > Mike. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Andreas Reuleaux > Sent: 14 January 2013 05:04 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [exim] Could it be that my mail was filtered as spam? - seeking some > advice > > I am on debian wheezy using exim in a smarthost configuration. > > For years my smart host was smpt.web.de and everything worked > smoothly. Choosing smtp.web.de as my smart host seemed only natural > given my web.de email address. > > I have moved to France meanwhile, but kept my German web.de email > address and I really want to stick with it, after all that's the > address by which everyone knows me. No problem so far: I can reach my > smtp.web.de smart host from France as well. > > Then I discovered about a year ago, that some important emails of mine > were silently discarded, i. e. smpt.web.de accepted them just fine, > but somehow on their way to their destination they where lost without > giving me any "delivery failed" message. > > Telnetting smtp.web.de revealed that it's running a "Nemesis ESMTP" > server > > $ telnet smtp.web.de 587 > Trying 213.165.67.108... > Connected to smtp.web.de. > Escape character is '^]'. > 220 web.de (mrweb002) Nemesis ESMTP Service ready > > I don't really know much about this Nemesis server, and maybe I am not > giving it the justice it deserves, but I had the idea of trying out my > French telephone operator Free's smtp server smtp.free.fr instead, as > it is running Postfix, a well know open source server, and I generally > have more confidence in open source systems. Also I heard that the > guys at free.fr are smart, and I figured they would make an effort to > keep their system up to date, perhaps more so than the web.de guys. > > $ telnet smtp.free.fr 587 > Trying 212.27.48.4... > Connected to smtp.free.fr. > Escape character is '^]'. > 220 smtp1-g21.free.fr ESMTP Postfix > > I could/can use this smtp.free.fr server, as I a got with my free.fr > subscription also a free.fr email account, which I don't use however, > as I prefer to continue using my web.de address (as explained above). > > So what I am currently doing, is sending emails with my @web.de sender > address through my smtp.free.fr smart host. > > This seems to work - not always, though. > > I experienced not to long ago the same issues as with my web.de smart > host: some emails of mine were silently discarded. Another problem was > that some emails took ages to arrive, but they finally arrived at > least. > > I am not 100% sure at this point, if this was a temporary problem of > free.fr which is fixed by now. - Of course I can just continue using > smtp.free.fr and see if it works. > > My other suspicion - and my real question - is this: maybe some email > servers on the Internet inspect my emails and sort them out as spam as > my sender address doesn't match my smarthost. > > To be clear: smtp.free.fr *does* accept my @web.de emails, this > sorting out / discarding must happen somewhere later, either within > free.fr without telling me, or later on the way to their destination. > > Should I expected my emails to arrive at its final destination once > smtp.free.fr has accepted them (and it's free.fr's responsibility to > convince other servers that it's not spam), or is my configuration > just so obviously lousy, that other smtp servers will consider my mail > as spam. > > Can I configure my exim maybe to demand some additional status > information, say some notification from every hop my email takes? > > Any advice is welcome. > > -Andreas > > -- > ## List details at https://lists.exim.org/mailman/listinfo/exim-users > ## Exim details at http://www.exim.org/ > ## Please use the Wiki with this list - http://wiki.exim.org/ > > > !DSPAM:50f423b8138881149017929! -- ## List details at https://lists.exim.org/mailman/listinfo/exim-users ## Exim details at http://www.exim.org/ ## Please use the Wiki with this list - http://wiki.exim.org/
