On Sat, Nov 01, 2025 at 03:50:10PM +1100, Viktor Dukhovni via Exim-users wrote:

> > Well, that's ugly in combination with DANE... eg. mail[12].polisen.se needs 
> > it
> > # openssl s_client -starttls smtp -connect mail1.polisen.se:25 -groups
> > "X25519MLKEM768:*X25519:P-256:ffdhe3072"
> > works, but with MLKEM [as an unsolicited initial keyshare] it doesn't.
> 
> Thanks, that's now three not particularly obscure domains I'm aware of
> with MX hosts that exhibit symptoms of aversion to larger TLS Client
> Hellos.  The other two being "minaz.nl" and "handelshanken.se".  I've
> sent notices to contact email addresses of the latter two, I hope
> they'll take prompt action.  Have you by any chance made contact with
> polisen.se?

By the way, probing more closely, I encounter TLS handshake timeouts
with mail[12].polisen.se only over IPv6, otherwise identical IPv4 TLS
handshakes with X25519MLKEM768 keyshares succeed.

-- 
    Viktor.  🇺🇦 Слава Україні!

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