My grandfather was drunk most of the time and could not coherently describe his achievements in WWII. I do not consider myself a Russian patriot, rather a Russian sympathizer instead. My ancestors, lying drunk in a ditch self-medicating for war injuries, were simply crushed by the war unable to recover. Making Nazi jokes was simply a way of dealing with irreparable harm done to us. Such jokes are culturally acceptable in Russia. Growing up in the Soviet Union I constantly heard anecdotes about “a Russian, a German, and a Pole,” people’s physiques were regularly compared to those held in Nazi concentration camps, and games in Russians and Nazi were very common among children. Your indignation about Nazi jokes seems more of a cultural difference between … our cultures.
--- On Fri, 10/1/10, Human Resources <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Human Resources <[email protected]> > Subject: Expat List "humor" and "marginal" victims of the holocaust > To: [email protected] > Date: Friday, October 1, 2010, 7:18 AM > > Jokes about the Holocaust are not "flat", they are beyond > the pale, particularly in Russia, particularly in a glossy > lifestyle publication. See for yourself, again p. 64, > in October Maxim. > > My lawfirm is filing suit against Hachette Filipachi and > their advertisers, specifically the Russian publisher. > For some reason having Mercedes Benz, VW, BMW et al., > finance Holocaust humor REALLY rubs me the wrong way. > Maybe, it's just me. > > Then, we will file a class action in the U.S., if there is > a Russian reader who was negatively impacted, please drop a > line. > > People who publish hateful idiocy should not be injured, > but they certainly should be negatively reinforced. > > As to "we the Russians" and marginal victims. Nice to > hear from a Russian "patriot". > > My grandmother was a military nurse, who refused evacuation > during the Blockade of Leningrad, b/c she felt obliged to > stay with the wounded. > > My grandfather received his Red Star in August of 1941, and > finished the war as a Major in the Tank Corps, starting as a > tank commander in 1940. > > Both Jewish. > > What, exactly did you and yours do? Please feel free > to provide number of military unit, front, etc. > Luckily there are ample records to confirm. > > And finally... if Holocaust jokes don't offend you on > behalf of Jews, there were, as you correctly point out lots > of other victims. Feel offended on behalf of Poles, > Russians, Catholics, Gays, etc. Just... feel > offended. > > As to denunciations of the Orthodox Church, I certainly > don't agree with them on most things. But, I am > certain that not every opinion they have is wrong, and that > there are intelligent people of good will to speak on their > behalf. > _______________________________________________ > Expat mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.lists.ru/mailman/listinfo/expat > http://www.expat.ru/forum/ > _______________________________________________ Expat mailing list [email protected] http://www.lists.ru/mailman/listinfo/expat http://www.expat.ru/forum/
