tom, let me be the first to apologize, when I wrote this last eve I was not in the proper frame of mind. With that being said and such, there are new kernels out there. In the 2.3.X area. (http://www.kernel.org) I was not made aware of any aliasing that had to be done (once again in documentation that wasn't provided with the kernel ;-) ). I will look at the site you listed. Thanks for your input. And the issue with RedHat if you have seen it in your local computer store you would be outraged as well. -Al [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Al Smith wrote: > > > > Tom, > > > > I do not wish to get into an argument about this. > > Me neither. I didn't mean to annoy or insult you. Sorry if this impression > had come across! > > > But I myself tried using > > M5.3 with kernel 2.2.9 and received the same problem with Ethernet card and > > such. > > Hm, that's really odd. Works like a charm over here. > > > The unmounting of the filesystem is a BIG bug and you are correct it is > > not a 'minor glitch'. But on a side note I am insulted at the response to use > > redhat 6.0, RedHat in my personal opinon are sell outs nothing more nothing > > less. I have liked Mandrake so far and do intend to stick with it. But I > > usually never use a x.0 product due to it is a new product with many bugs. > > That is why I wanted to switch back down to 5.3. > > I really never thought someone could get insulted by suggesting using RH to > him. Millions do use RH, even Linus himself. Sorry, but I didn't know about > your strong feelings. > As for the sellout argument: well, you can still order 2$ CDs from > Cheapbytes, so I don't think that there is a sellout involved. The official > package includes 30 days free support by phone and given the large amounts > of RH shipments, that is really an expensive offer. RH is targeted at > companies so they must employ really savy people. And qualified personel is > not cheap. > > > I was unable to do that so I had to blow away my drive and install clean. > > I did this using 6.0 and everything went ok. But once again as soon as I > > complied the kernel with the default settings that were listed. NO > > MODIFICATIONS DONE TO THE KERNEL. Doing: > > > > make dep clean modules modules_install bzdisk (I always compile a new kernel > > to a bootdisk it is a good habit). > > > > And once again there was the issue with the network and the inablity to > > recoginze some external devices. I.E. a zip drive that does have module > > support installed. > > Did you read /usr/src/linux/Documentation/paride.txt and have been to > www.torque.net/paride? You have to set an alias in /etc/conf.modules to get > ppa loaded and some people reported they succeded by loading the module via > /etc/rc.d/rc.local. If devices do not get recognized after a kernel upgrade > it is usually due to something like that and not a bug. If there were > serious bugs like these in 2.2.9 there would have been issued a new version > by now. The kernel dev guys at least certainly want to use their zip drives > and network themselves :-) > I remember 2.2.6 won't load the ppp-module unless you put an empty file > ..ppprc in your home directory. Took me quite a while to figure out that! > > > > Once again I do declare that I think there is a serious bug in 2.2.9 kernel > > that needs to be addressed. The OS is fine other then that point in my > > opinion. But once again they are opinion. And if you wish to challange that > > opinion you can e-mail me directly at: > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > I am AOL at: > > > > clayton940 > > > > ICQ: > > > > 10825601 > > > > But do not attempt to flame me or challange me on a public mailing such as > > this. > > Again, it was not my slightest intention to do so! That's was newsgroups > are for *grin*. > > > Regards, > > > > -Al > > > > Regards > > tom > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Al Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Date: Dienstag, 1. Juni 1999 21:18 > > > Subject: [expert] Mandrake 6.0 > > > > > > > > > >Well in my personal opinon 6.0 looks good on the outside. But 5.3 is what I > > > >think is a more stable release. There are way to many bugs in the 2.2.9 > > > >kernel. I am switching down to 5.3 but once the bugs are fixed I will > > > upgrade > > > >again to 6.0 (on the grounds that an upgrade from 5.3 to 6 will be a stable > > > >upgrade). > > > > > > > >-Al > > > > > > > > > > Hi Al, > > > well, let me repeat this: the M6 issues are not related to 2.2.9. I run 5.3 > > > with a self-compiled 2.2.9 kernel over here and don't experience any > > > troubles at all. There must be something odd about the initscripts. Hm, I am > > > no expert at the SysV init process but I will take look at them myself. > > > Anyway, bugs are not unusual for a major version release, especially not on > > > such a cutting edge release like 'Venus' (which is at least one release > > > ahead of all other distros). > > > If you prefer something more conservative, maybe you should give RedHat 6 a > > > try... > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > tom > > > > > -- > "Paranoid? I hope so!" > Thomas 'Tom' Berger, [EMAIL PROTECTED] No UCE. No spam. 'nuff said. > Questions? Answers! 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