On 24-Jul-99 Robert Sheskin wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Jul 1999 16:32:44 -0500, Jason Bodnar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> His problem is a common novice cgi problem. The correct way to handle it
>> first would be to seek help from a CGI list before assuming it was a
>> mandrake problem.
>>
>> At 10:32 AM 7/24/99 -0800, you wrote:
>>>Jason Bodnar wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I don't want to be the jerk of the list but this is definitely not a
>>>> question relating to mandrake. Could you please ask it in a more
>>>> appropriate forum.
>>>
>>>I disagree with you.  The fellow is using an Apache web server on
>>>a Mandrake 6.0 server.
>>>
> The arrogence on this list is ridiculous. The god dam distribution is geared
> toward trying to get new people into Linux. Somebody who has been using
> Windows and has had to make a tech support call called one number. On the box
> for Mandrake it says tech support via email. What is wrong with somebody
> asking a question. So many of you stuffed shirts think it is fine to drone on
> about crap you find interesting, even though the rest of us see it as a waste
> of bandwidth. But did anyone tell you to shut up, no. 
> 
> This rant is not directed totally to author I replied to, many on this list
> fit the bill. 
> You know I happen to like this distro but this list for support is a joke. If
> the people at Mandrake don't start moderating the arogant sob's on this list
> you can kiss new Mandrake users goodbye. Who in the hell is going to make a
> major change in their computer using life to be ridiculed by arrogant jerks. 
> If you think back you were not born with computer skills you learned them,
> jut like everybody else has to. I am sure there are people on this list that
> think they know everything, guess what you don't.
> Try cutting some people a little slack, they have to learn,  we all do.
> 

Maybe I've missed some threads or something (I was a bit too busy to keep up
from the 9th-18th this month), but my experience with this list (I've been on it
since I started using Mandrake 6.0 a little over a month ago) has been pretty
positive.  It's one of my favorite things about the Mandrake distribution. 
Perhaps I didn't look hard enough, but I don't recall seeing equivalent
distribution-specific mailing lists on RedHat's, SuSE's, or Slackware's web
sites.

Most of the questions I ask on this list are answered promptly (often by
someone at Mandrake).  I've seen plenty of questions on this list that an
experienced user might consider 'stupid', and yet they usually receive a
friendly answer from someone who apparently understands that some people
simply aren't as far along in the process of learning Linux.

I am not flaming you or anything, I just wanted to say that to me this list
hasn't seemed as negative and arrogant as you describe it (outside of this
particular thread), and rather than drive me away, it has made me feel more
inclined to keep Mandrake on my hard drive and NOT take longer looks at the
other three distributions I have on CD. :)


-Tom

P.S. And this isn't even the tech support that you have to pay for.

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