depends how old you are (72 here) I too remember the days when WYSIWYG meant
64K and write your own programs.
"Weave a circle round him thrice,
  And close your eyes with holy dread,
  For he on honeydew hath fed,
  And drunk the milk of paradise."  (The linux user)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ramon Gandia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] Penguin removal - OT!


> "John D. Kim" wrote:
> >
> > Wow, I've only heard about keypunch.  My high school cs teacher used to
> > tell us about it.  I learned COBOL when I was in high school, but we had
a
> > nice VMS machine to code it on.  And I thought COBOL just couldn't be
any
> > worse, but I guess I was wrong.
> >
> > On Tue, 14 Mar 2000, ibi wrote:
> >
> > > And, here I thought I was the only kid on the block old enough to know
> > > what keypuch is! Shilly me. LOL .. Pj
>
> Well, I coded Fortran II and Cobol on an IBM 1620 and 7040
> back in 1964 using keypunches.  It actually worked quite
> well.  Fortran II is very close to the first Microsoft
> Basics (as sold by MITS for their Altair).
>
> The 1620 was slow, with rotating memory drum; but the 7040
> had hand wound core memory and it was FAST.  I am not sure
> that it would not favorably compete with modern micros in
> term of speed.  But you wouldn't want to pay the electric
> and air conditioning bill!  That was in the days before
> integrated circuits.  Each memory bit took two to four
> transistors and a toroid core with three windings as I
> recall.
>
> Does this make me the old Geezer of the Mandrake List?
>
>
>
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