Ummm . . . what was "item 3"?
And actually I used csh, but I tried it under bash to verify that it
wasn't a shell-specific change. It must be a change in some underlying
system library because this doesn't seem to depend on the shell being
used.
Charles Curley wrote:
>
> On Sat, Apr 22, 2000 at 08:53:34AM -0400, Brian T. Schellenberger wrote:
> ->
> -> Not an emergency but it's been bugging me for a while and traffic seems
> -> to be relatively light right now . . .
> ->
> ->
> ->
> -> Throughout most of my Unix life a command like
> ->
> -> ls -d [a-z]
> ->
> -> would list only lower-case files. Sometime fairly recently in Linux
> -> this has changed; thus, in one of my directories,
> ->
> -> > ls -d [a-z]
> -> I/ K b/ c/ d/ f/ g/ h/ n/ r/ t/ w/ x/
> ->
> -> As you can see, [a-z] includes both upper- and lower-case items. For
> -> quite I while I was under the misapprehension that this was because the
> -> [-] operator had gotten case-insensitive, but this is not the case:
> ->
> -> > ls -d [abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz]
> -> b/ c/ d/ f/ g/ h/ n/ r/ t/ w/ x/
> ->
> -> So what's happened instead is that the order in which things are search
> -> has changed: instead of having a meaning interpretted in ASCII order
> -> it's in dictionary order.
> ->
> -> This is not brand-new; it's true in Mandrake 7.0 but it was also true in
> -> RedHat 6.1. But it was not true in Caldera OpenLinux 2.2 or RedHat 5.2
> -> or any earlier Unix or Unix-like system I ever used before (HP-UX,
> -> Solaris, FreeBSD, real BSD).
> ->
> -> I suppose that I can see why this would be done on the grounds of being
> -> "intuitive", but it's a lot less useful; with the old interpretation it
> -> was easy to express ideas like "lower-case" or "upper-caes" and it only
> -> took a few extra keystrokes to get any character range in both cases,
> -> but it takes lots to now express "uppercase" or "lowercase".
> ->
> -> Anyway, does anybody know
> ->
> -> - Why this was done?
> -> - Who decided to do this?
> -> - If there's something that can be done to switch it back?
>
> Interesting. I don't see it on Mandrake 6.1.
>
> As for itme 3, I believe ls is part of bash, so man bash may be the way to
> go.
>
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>
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