You tell 'em!
To all you 'experts' out there:
Thank you all so much for being there.
You won't find ingratitude here.
Bambi
John Connell wrote:
> You *GO* girl! RIght on!
> John
>
> Subject: [expert] OT: Linux Newbie
>
> > Hello List,
> >
> > My comments are not intended to start a thread or a flame. Please
> > contact me privately if you feel compelled to comment.
> >
> > I am a newbie, a fact I do not hide. I joined this group several months
> > ago to learn- when I loaded my very first mdk distro and discovered how
> > deep the water is. You have taught me well and for that I am grateful
> > and I thank you for your time and patience.
> >
> > During these months I've watched an ugly metamorphisis take plce. The
> > list then was monitored by Mandrake developers and programers. They
> > generously took time to respond. The list then was filled with replies
> > from some of the brightest minds in the Linux communtity. Combined,
> > these folks probably had a million years of *NIX experience they were
> > willing to share just for asking. So what happened?
> >
> > >From my vantage point I've seen an erosion not only in the type of
> > question but also the attitude. This list was composed of well-mannered
> > men and women..what my father would call ladies and gentlemen.
> >
> > The list slowly changed from a polite demeanor to one of demanding,
> > shouting, cursing and temper tantrums. Our Mandrake developers have been
> > cussed, discussed and generally trashed because some whiny baby doesn't
> > know how to use a new operating system. Thus the fault changed from the
> > operator to the program creators. [Speaking for myself I can only say
> > that every error message I've seen in Venus, my distro, has been of my
> > own making becasue I don't understand the basics yet.]
> >
> > This list is for Mandrake Experts. It is not a baby-sitting service. No
> > one on this list is obligated to answer any question. No one is
> > obligated to answer instantly. Your demands, my demands and future
> > demands are just that: demands. The gentle members of this list
> > frequently ignore these messages as they should.
> >
> > Lately, I've read a lot of messages with attitude written all over the
> > subjet line: "How many times do I have to...?"; "Mandrake Sucks"; "I've
> > written x times why ...?". Regardless of content the message is the
> > same: I am the most important person on this list and I demand an answer
> > right now! Guess what? You aren't the most important person on this
> > list. Everyone has equal standing. If you don't have a life, get one.
> >
> > As far as I have been able to determine there is no perfect operating
> > system. Not every piece of hardware made will work on every system. Not
> > every piece of software written will work on every system. There are too
> > many machine configurations to consider. The advantage of Linux,
> > particularly the Mandrake distro, over Winblows is twofold: MUG and
> > modules. If *it* doen't work to your satisfaction you can fix *it*
> > yourself without waiting months for a patch that fixes your whole
> > system. Many times in the past a Mandrake developer would posted a small
> > script to fix a particularly thorny problem for one person. I don't see
> > this anymore.
> >
> > To the people who need this list the most, I have some advice: Be
> > polite. Please and thank you go a long way toward getting a quick
> > response. Be patient. We live in every time zone in the world, please
> > take this into consideration as well as the fact that we all have
> > private lives. STOP SCREAMING!! It's annoying and a guaranteed way to
> > not receive a reply. Stop making demands; it's rude. Admit you don't
> > know how to do something and be grateful when you get the answer. We all
> > have frustrating issues, don't let it spill into this list.
> >
> > This MUG is a great group of guys and gals, please help keep it that
> > way.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Pj
> >
> >
