Althought this topic is more appropriate to a KDE forum, it brings up a 
subject about which I have thought often.  I've been a Linux user for three 
years (Mandrake for the last two), and have never used KDE for more than a 
few minutes.  Window Maker was my wm of choice until  recently; I was 
unconvinced that either of the two major desktop environments were either 
stable or useful enough to warrant the space they occupied and the drain on 
system resources.  I had always liked Gnome from an aesthetic standpoint, 
but, whenever I tried it out, I was continuously deleting my ~/.gnome* dirs 
when things went haywire, and starting over. However, since the release of 
Helix Gnome, all that has changed.  I have been using it without 
interruption for several months now, and couldn't be happier. Gnome has the 
functionality that Ernie wants, i.e., drawers on the gnome panel.   I 
suggest that he give it a try.


--On Friday, May 26, 2000 2:15 AM -0400 "Ernest N. Wilcox Jr." 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I like the KDE desktop environment a lot. It is relatively configurable,
> and easy to master. The only thing about it that I miss from my Win9x
> environment is the enhanced task bar. I am able to creat tool bars or
> pop-up menus in the task bar at the bottom of the screen at will. I could
> point a "tool bar" at a folder, and the contents of the folder would be
> available in the tool bar. This ability allowed me to keep a much cleaner
> desk top, and to organize my desk top icons into tool bars and pop up
> menus. I used pop up menus for such things as a My Documents folder and a
> My HTML folder as well as any specific project I may be working on at any
> given time. The tool bars I use for system utilities, and applications I
> find I need for all projects (my favorite goodies and toys). The task bar
> could also be resized from one row high to half the screen high, and it
> can auto-hide as well.
>
> kpanel can auto-hide, and you can select the icon size small, medium, or
> large. But you can not set up two or more rows, and you can not organize
> the icons into "tool bars" within the panel, although pop-up menus are
> possible. I just think a panel as flexible and configurable as the Win9x
> one would be a usefull tool in any desk top environment.
>
> Take note that I am not asking for a Win9x environment. If I wanted that,
> I could be using it right now. I simply think that the panel applet could
> be more flexible, and the enhanced task bar in Win9x is a good example of
> the kind of flexibility I have in mind.
>
> To put this in a nut shell, I would like a panel applet which can have
> one or more rows of tool bars or pop-up menus. I want to define the size
> of the icons displayed in the tool bars and pop-up menus in terms of
> pixels, not small, medium or large. I also want the tool bars and pop-up
> menus to represent the contents of folders, allowing automatic update as
> the contents of the represented folders change.
>
> I think this may be asking a lot, considering that Linux Mandrake is free
> for all intents and purposes, but you asked :).
>
>  --
>
>
>
>
> ___________________________
> Ernie ([EMAIL PROTECTED])





/b

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